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    I think Astrologion got buffed instead of nerfed. With the addition of Spear, you don't have to fish for Balance anymore. Which means you now have two cards that are incredibly useful and bring raid DPS. Which means that the uptime of these useful cards will be much higher than when just fishing for Balance cards. If this actually ends up being a buff, I can't say I'm nothing but disgusted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starflake View Post
    I think Astrologion got buffed instead of nerfed. With the addition of Spear, you don't have to fish for Balance anymore. Which means you now have two cards that are incredibly useful and bring raid DPS. Which means that the uptime of these useful cards will be much higher than when just fishing for Balance cards. If this actually ends up being a buff, I can't say I'm nothing but disgusted.
    I don't know if people didn't realize this but we HAD two DPS improvement cards before, or did Arrow just stop existing?

    Balance got a significant nerf and as was mentioned in numerous threads, a DPS increase trumps everything else. Balance will probably still be king of the cards.

    But was it fun gameplay for AST to have 6 cards and only care about 1 or maybe 2 depending on how many casters you had? That's why it got nerfed. Balance was too strong comparatively.

    I also have to appreciate the guy who said he wasn't gonna talk about something off topic coming in and complaining about Scholar.
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    cerise leclaire
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elamys View Post
    I don't know if people didn't realize this but we HAD two DPS improvement cards before, or did Arrow just stop existing?
    No, BLM did because RDM.

    /rimshot
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    Quote Originally Posted by LegoTechnic View Post
    No, BLM did because RDM.

    /rimshot
    this is too soon
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    cerise leclaire
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elamys View Post
    I don't know if people didn't realize this but we HAD two DPS improvement cards before, or did Arrow just stop existing?

    Balance got a significant nerf and as was mentioned in numerous threads, a DPS increase trumps everything else. Balance will probably still be king of the cards.

    But was it fun gameplay for AST to have 6 cards and only care about 1 or maybe 2 depending on how many casters you had? That's why it got nerfed. Balance was too strong comparatively.

    I also have to appreciate the guy who said he wasn't gonna talk about something off topic coming in and complaining about Scholar.
    You now have three useful DPS cards. Even though Balance is nerfed, it's pretty clear to me that it may just end up in an actual increase. Crit synergized incredibly well with a lot of classes in raids too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starflake View Post
    You now have three useful DPS cards. Even though Balance is nerfed, it's pretty clear to me that it may just end up in an actual increase. Crit synergized incredibly well with a lot of classes in raids too.
    And how many other classes bring a crit increase? You don't have to bring an AST because you want a crit buff.
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    cerise leclaire
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elamys View Post
    And how many other classes bring a crit increase? You don't have to bring an AST because you want a crit buff.
    How is this even an argument and accepted by some people. Let me just sum it up. Astrologians can give raw extra damage, raw extra crit, raw extra skill and spell speed, can give thirty second damage reductions on tanks for 20% and it has like 200 less overall DPS than other healers. Which other healer can do that? It has stronger medicas, it has stronger shields. How is it not overpowered, really? It's not that Astrologion bringing crit is a bad thing. It's that is brings it on top of all the other utility you seem to forget other classes don't have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starflake View Post
    How is this even an argument and accepted by some people. Let me just sum it up. Astrologians can give raw extra damage, raw extra crit, raw extra skill and spell speed, can give thirty second damage reductions on tanks for 20% and it has like 200 less overall DPS than other healers. Which other healer can do that? It has stronger medicas, it has stronger shields. How is it not overpowered, really? It's not that Astrologion bringing crit is a bad thing. It's that is brings it on top of all the other utility you seem to forget other classes don't have.
    Did Chain Stratagem get deleted from the game? Can AST just use all their cards whenever they want without having to Draw for them and get their Royal Road buff in place? Are all of AST's heals off the GCD now? Does AST have infinite MP? Can AST now regen and shield at the same time?

    AST CANNOT do everything at once, but people act like they can, and it's so, so tiring to hear about.
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    cerise leclaire
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elamys View Post
    Did Chain Stratagem get deleted from the game? Can AST just use all their cards whenever they want without having to Draw for them and get their Royal Road buff in place? Are all of AST's heals off the GCD now? Does AST have infinite MP? Can AST now regen and shield at the same time?

    AST CANNOT do everything at once, but people act like they can, and it's so, so tiring to hear about.
    Every thirty seconds you can draw. Chain Strategem is 15 seconds every two minutes. Yours lasts 30 (or 20 full seconds and even that you can enhance. The uptime is much greater. You have issues with mana? Get better mana magement then. You after all also have MP utility. If you can't see how OP Astrologian is, then I don't know what to tell you. Can you shield and heal at the same time he asks. Can you shit out 14k Physick IIs as well?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elamys View Post
    And how many other classes bring a crit increase? You don't have to bring an AST because you want a crit buff.
    I do now I find it pretty awesome tbh
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