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    Tyla_Esmeraude's Avatar
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    Tyla Esmeraude
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    I'm satisfied with the changes. Balance was nerfed but we got new Spear in return. So now we have more ways to increase party DPS instead of just one being the dominant one. Now people can finally stop complaining about Balance. If they bring up the Spear card now however... then it'll be just plain ridiculousness.
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    Lutemis Rangar
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    Not sure why people are still acting like Aspected Benefic vs Adlo isn't a problem.
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    Zugz Zwang
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrocco View Post
    Not sure why people are still acting like Aspected Benefic vs Adlo isn't a problem.
    People will always find something to complain about...
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    Ellia Lombardia
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    Lamia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrocco View Post
    Not sure why people are still acting like Aspected Benefic vs Adlo isn't a problem.
    It isn't a problem.
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    Joyous Blossom
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunafreya View Post
    It isn't a problem.
    It's not a problem. If you're an AST. Your shields cost less mana, shield higher, and are instant, of course you don't see where the problem is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Born_Free View Post
    It's not a problem. If you're an AST. Your shields cost less mana, shield higher, and are instant, of course you don't see where the problem is.
    The way every AST has tried to counter this argument is that SCH has a fairy, so before someone jumps on the basic argument bandwagon, I'd like to mention: The fairy is basic healing power. No mitigation. It's also barely noticeable without the actual Scholar backing it, so it's not a fair trade when compared to ASTs shield.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Born_Free View Post
    It's not a problem. If you're an AST. Your shields cost less mana, shield higher, and are instant, of course you don't see where the problem is.
    You forgot one last thing that Aspected Benefic does...

    It has the ability to hurt the feelings of every non-Astrologian healer with a potency of over 9000. Show me on the doll where the spell touched you...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Novak_04 View Post
    You forgot one last thing that Aspected Benefic does...

    It has the ability to hurt the feelings of every non-Astrologian healer with a potency of over 9000. Show me on the doll where the spell touched you...
    So when the ASTs were bitching in HW about how bad they were doing, it's fine, but when we get nurfed to the floor, it's completely legit.
    Get over yourself.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elamys
    Did Chain Stratagem get deleted from the game? Can AST just use all their cards whenever they want without having to Draw for them and get their Royal Road buff in place? Are all of AST's heals off the GCD now? Does AST have infinite MP? Can AST now regen and shield at the same time?

    AST CANNOT do everything at once, but people act like they can, and it's so, so tiring to hear about.
    Oh look it's the "Astrologians have an RNG mechanic so it makes everything totally legit" defense! I love these.
    ((By the way, ain't nobody got infinite MP anymore.))
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    Richard Butte
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    Hyperion
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Born_Free View Post
    It's not a problem. If you're an AST. Your shields cost less mana, shield higher, and are instant, of course you don't see where the problem is.
    They don't see where the problem is because you don't evaluate a class based upon one single ability. You evaluate it by its entire toolkit.

    The aspected benefic that people love to whine about so much is actually a sub-par method of healing for ASTs as it's far less mana efficient than the HoTs.

    AST being able to create larger shields in one of its two stances (that cannot be changed in combat) than SCH doesn't make it superior to SCH. SCH still has more overall shielding ability and better emergency buttons than AST does and likely ever will.

    No one's arguing that SCH needs/needed some buffs, but acting like the SCH class was invalidated because of ONE shield comparison is ridiculous.
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    Last edited by RichardButte; 07-20-2017 at 02:27 AM.

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