Next Job/Jobs Speculation

[RitsukoSonoda]

I like to think that the Jobs roster of Final Fantasy 5 is a good source for new Jobs.

The 24 man raid appears to be a ivalice themed one so looking at the jobs there that don't appear already in game. These are taken from FFTA2 as I cant recall what was in FFTA

Fighter
Parivir
Illusionist
Blue Mage
Templar
Cannoneer
Trickster
Beastmaster
Hunter
Time Mage
Sage
Green Mage
Elementalist
Spellblade
Assassin
Sniper
Animist
Moogle Knight - Granted moogle only in FFTA2
Fusilier
Juggler
Tinker
Chocobo Knight
Flintlock
Berserker
Viking
Raptor
Ravager
Geomancer

Then unique classes
Heritor
Sky Pirate
Dancer
Agent

I left out ones that felt to be essentially the same as another job but listed different in game due to it being oriented to a different race in the game.

[Ametrine]

Snip.

You need to have care with this, however. Each game is unique on it's own, but there are many tropes and ideas that carry through the series that makes it all feel distinctly Final Fantasy. Changed aspects of these tropes tends to stick out much more than if it were simply absent.

Snip.

Other times in FF games, the team's white mage is doubly a summoner to have some useful offensive skills. (Like Garnet, Eiko, and Yuna)

The complaint with WHM and BLM is instead of digging for those few unique skills WHM had, they took half of BLM's toys away and gave them to WHM. Meanwhile, BLM has all these quirky stacks and is stance dancing stances verses being the backline, glass cannon.

That doesn't mean the final products are badly designed or not fun by any means, just initially off-putting when it plays nothing like old games. Most players get over that.

[Kazrah]

You need to have care with this, however. Each game is unique on it's own, but there are many tropes and ideas that carry through the series that makes it all feel distinctly Final Fantasy. Changed aspects of these tropes tends to stick out much more than if it were simply absent.

You say that, and then you realize....

That doesn't mean the final products are badly designed or not fun by any means, just initially off-putting when it plays nothing like old games. Most players get over that.

Sure, the diehards will keep whining, but the majority of players will accept the fact that FFXIV is its own game.

Also.....

The 24 man raid appears to be a ivalice themed one so looking at the jobs there that don't appear already in game. These are taken from FFTA2 as I cant recall what was in FFTA.

There's more than once Ivalice in the Final Fantasy Series. Pretty sure the reference they're using is the original FFT, not the FFTA series.

[RitsukoSonoda]

The Ivalice in th FFTA series is also the same Ivalice used in FFXII which we just had a remastered version launched on PS4 of. I'd be far more inclined to say its this ivalice we are looking at for the raid.

Apparently Vagrant Story took place in Ivalice as well though I don't remember much of the game.

[Kazrah]

The Ivalice in th FFTA series is also the same Ivalice used in FFXII which we just had a remastered version launched on PS4 of. I'd be far more inclined to say its this ivalice we are looking at for the raid.

Apparently Vagrant Story took place in Ivalice as well though I don't remember much of the game.

Gamerescape interview; March 31, 2017:

Is there any guidance as to what parts of Ivalice we’ll be seeing in the raid? Is it more Final Fantasy Tactics? Is it more Final Fantasy XII? Is it a little bit of both?

I think definitely if you have prior knowledge of Tactics, it would be really enjoyable. But that being said we don’t want it so that it is mandatory for you to have done Tactics or you won’t enjoy [the raid] without the knowledge. So, you can rest assured that we’re not going to force you to have prior knowledge.

Of course there may be some elements within Return to Ivalice… if you are familiar with the Ivalice in Final Fantasy XII, you might recognize things.

So up to the start of early access, you should play Tactics ahead of time, and then enjoy Stormblood, and then in early July… when Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age comes out on July 12th you can play that and then it’ll be right on time for Patch 4.1 and Return to Ivalice. So you have a perfect scheduler right there.

FFT focus with some references to XII. No mention of the FFTA series.

[Drakeos]

Time Mage > Geomancer > Dancer > Corsiar ?

[RitsukoSonoda]

Gamerescape interview; March 31, 2017:



FFT focus with some references to XII. No mention of the FFTA series.

FFTA is still FFT It simply was labeled advance due to being released on GBA. Rather than bold the parts you did you should note the part where it says "if you are familiar with the Ivalice in Final Fantasy XII you might recognize things." The FFT games made for GBA which carry the advance tag again are the ones that share the same Ivalice as FFXII. If they based it off the FFT game made for PS One there wouldn't be recognizable elements from FFXII in it.

[Sinsain]

Beastmaster! Ranger! Corsair! Geomancer! Bluemage!

[Kazrah]

FFTA is still FFT It simply was labeled advance due to being released on GBA. Rather than bold the parts you did you should note the part where it says "if you are familiar with the Ivalice in Final Fantasy XII you might recognize things." The FFT games made for GBA which carry the advance tag again are the ones that share the same Ivalice as FFXII. If they based it off the FFT game made for PS One there wouldn't be recognizable elements from FFXII in it.

May be same place names used at best, but they're still not the same game series. Not even close.

[EdwinLi]

I will say this my Dream Job for any RPG is a Technology Mage Job

I always found it interesting what may happen if you combine Technology and Magic into one Class/Job. Sadly very few RPGs will bother creating a Technology Mage job.

However, with Yoshi-P saying he wants to introduce new Jobs that are unique to FF14 I hope greatly that he may introduce a Magitek Mage Job either a Tank or DPS.