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  1. #331
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    Kazrah's Avatar
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    Nonni Brilante
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    I always assumed all the Garlean Soldiers we fight that can use basic Magic are by blood non-Garleans. As we learned in 4.0 the number of non-Garleans in the Garlean Army holds high amount due to conscription and willingly joining the Garlean Army to obtain Citizenship after 20 years of service since the only way to obtain garlean citizenship for non-Garleans is through military service from what we know so far.
    I forget where the information comes from, but the story was that very few Garleans had a minor affinity for magic and were able to cast spells on a very rudimentary level. It's kinda like playing this game one-handed: it's doable, but definitely leaves a disadvantage.

    After thinking about, it dawned on me that Machinist is a benchmark for the "tech mage" theme. Even though the use of a gun to fire aether bullets and using aether to power turrets and other various tech toy buffs might not seem like much, but it's a step toward that theme and a pretty good example of how the themes of magic and technology can be combined.

    Another possibility is the more steampunk-esque style that can be sometimes associated with Time Mage, which Alexander proved to be at least thematically possible.
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  2. #332
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    Edwin Li
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kazrah View Post
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    Well thinking about it. Final Fantasy has 2 out of the 3 basic Warrior, Rogue/Archer, and Mage Job trinity covered for their series.

    Machinist is the Magitek Rogue/Archer Job and Gunblade users are the Magitek Warrior Job.

    They are just missing that Magitek Mage job to complete the Job trinity for Magitek Users in FF series.
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  3. #333
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    OMega_ARcane's Avatar
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    Ninja Lv 76
    Someone said dancer as a tank...While I don't really see that being the case something did pop into my mind. IF they did make dancer into a tank instead of having provoke, they could have taunt? something like bending over and slapping their bottom to taunt enemies. Sure aggro!
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  4. #334
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    Nonni Brilante
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    Quote Originally Posted by OMega_ARcane View Post
    Someone said dancer as a tank...While I don't really see that being the case something did pop into my mind. IF they did make dancer into a tank instead of having provoke, they could have taunt? something like bending over and slapping their bottom to taunt enemies. Sure aggro!
    I'm not sure it'd be the complete equivalent of Provoke since that's a role skill, but maybe use it as an alternative animation for Provoke or Ultimatum. If they can do unique role skill animations between BRD and MCH, I'm sure they could do it with Dancer.
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    Advent Shadowsoul
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    Zalera
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Dancer tank would be interesting, if they did it. I mean evasion tanking can be a thing, but who knows really? Certainly would be an odd angle to tanking, but itd be different enough

    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    Well thinking about it. Final Fantasy has 2 out of the 3 basic Warrior, Rogue/Archer, and Mage Job trinity covered for their series.

    Machinist is the Magitek Rogue/Archer Job and Gunblade users are the Magitek Warrior Job.

    They are just missing that Magitek Mage job to complete the Job trinity for Magitek Users in FF series.
    possibly a tp based healer like chemist/medicus?

    or TP based mage could work too...probably much easier since the new combat changes and the cross role system allows for invigorate, like a technomancer or something out of pso force users
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    Last edited by ADVSS; 07-28-2017 at 07:44 AM.

  6. #336
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    Zanku Hado
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    Well thinking about it. Final Fantasy has 2 out of the 3 basic Warrior, Rogue/Archer, and Mage Job trinity covered for their series.

    Machinist is the Magitek Rogue/Archer Job and Gunblade users are the Magitek Warrior Job.

    They are just missing that Magitek Mage job to complete the Job trinity for Magitek Users in FF series.
    Juuuudddggeee
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  7. #337
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    Xdark93's Avatar
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    Amadeus Aeon
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    Mateus
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    Rogue Lv 62
    assuming the next expansion goes with the Garlean theme we can expect to see jobs focused on that theme so like gunblades incorporated would be 1 job while another could be a mage of sorts that can manipulate elements thru magitek etc.
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  8. #338
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    Savagelf's Avatar
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    Aribeth Lightbringer
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    I still hoping for bst and pup blue mages
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  9. #339
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    Markov Dracul
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    Dancer Lv 100
    I want a Gunblade job that is a DPS. Reason I want it to be a DPS? I want it to play like Squall from Dissidia. Favorite character in that game to play.
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  10. #340
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    Felicia Meracle
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    Leviathan
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    Dancer Lv 80
    Assuming the developers stick to releasing only 2 jobs per expansion pack from here on, I hope the next two jobs are a Tank and a Healer. DPS got all the love already for the current expansion (though SMNs might disagree on that), and I want the developers to remind the playerbase that they haven't forgotten about Tanks and Healers and that they should get shiny new toys as well. With that said...

    For the only job left that I really want to see, I'd like Dancer to step up and be the first physical healer of the healers. There have been suggestions already about how Dancer could operate as a healer, and to repeat some of that, I'd like it if Dancers were also the first combat job to use a weapon that Weavers could make. A "Bladed Cloth" of some sort. A gap closer would be a "must have" if the Dancer's DPS abilities were of course melee range. I was also thinking Dancer could have been a team buffer, but since AST basically already covers that with their cards (and SCH to an extent with Selene), Dancer could instead have debuffs that they throw on the enemies as long as they're in range. Regardless if the developers make it another team buffer or an enemy debuffer, I know one thing for certain: I just want Dancer as a healer. Perferably with the "Bladed Cloth" weapon idea. Please SE. ;-;

    As for the Tank job... well... the other remaining job I was hoping to see get in as a Tank, ended up getting in as a DPS. While SAM as a DPS is working out nicely for gearing up along side my MNK, this effectively means that I don't have any other jobs out there that I really want to see as a Tank job. As such, I've looked through the various suggestions made across the forum, and the 4 that stand out to me that could function as the next Tank are...

    1: Blue Mage. Just to say that there's a "color" mage in each job category. And before people scream that Blue Mage would function more as a DPS, look at what the developers did with Dark Knight. If they can make Dark Knight a tank for this game, I'm sure they could make Blue Mage a tank.

    2: Rune Knight. This seems the least likely to me, as based on what I know, some of what made Rune Knight... well... a Rune Knight, can be found on FFXIV's version of Dark Knight. I'll admit I have little knowledge about Rune Knight though.

    3: Garlean Gunblade job. The way the NPC's have been fighting with the weapon makes most people (understandably) think it's more likely to be a DPS job. And while I agree with that, someone pointed out elsewhere that in one of the recent solo instances, Nero was acting as the Tank in that instance. While DPS jobs are capable of stepping up to "Tank" in solo instances, I can't help but wonder if the developers are actually already setting up the next Tank job with this gunblade job battle stance we keep seeing the Garleans use. But this is all just speculation of course, and a gunblade job as the next Tank wouldn't be my first choice among remaining jobs that have yet to get in.

    4: Double Shield tank job. (Or some other type of blunt damage dealing Tank job) This type of tank wouldn't have much damage type synergy except with MNK sadly, but I do like the idea of a Double Shield tank, if just to stand out from the other tanks.

    Among those 4 job ideas, I think Blue Mage is the most likely. But as I stated earlier, there aren't any jobs left in the FF lore that I really want to see as a Tank now, since Samurai is already a DPS. I mean, quite frankly, all they have to do now is add Dancer as a healer, and I'll be completely content on the available jobs for FFXIV, and I won't even ask for any more new jobs. So as long as Dancer is revealed as the next healer to go with... whatever Tank job they decide to go with for the next expansion, I'll be happy.
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    Last edited by TruebladeNuke; 07-29-2017 at 06:05 AM. Reason: Grammer!

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