Next Job/Jobs Speculation

[Kazrah]

Blue Mage sounds like a very Garlean-esque job given that they don't rely on pure forms of magic, and borrow enemy attacks; which fits in quite well with how Garleans can't use magic and steal abilities to artificially imbue themselves, and becoming tank-like in the process.

Thing is is that we've only seen one actual example of a circumstance like this in the story, but....

that was a research team under Zenos, which included people (even Zenos himself) who even the Garleans found to be too unethical and too far into the realm of insanity. All the other cases have merely been borrowing the actual things creating magical effects and forcing those things to use those abilities for the Garleans' own ends.

Now if Blue Mage was to have such an origin area, then it would probably have to be within an equal realm of consideration as that.

[Anova]

For new classes, I can't help but notice that we have an odd number of dps. We have 3 magic/caster (rdm, blm, smn), 3 healers (sch, ast, whm), 3 tanks (pld, drk, war), 2 ranged dps (mch, brd), and 4 melee dps (mnk, drg, sam, nin).

If there are any new jobs, I would expect 1 new ranged job. The question then is what role they have compared to brd and mch. We'll have to see what direction SE decides to go with their mch buffs, but the ranged job should provide a lot more utility. Dancer might actually fit into this role, possibly using a throwing weapon like a chakram or something as their ranged weapon. In the worst case scenario (because we won't see a major change for 2 years, and then BRDs will complain like WAR and SCH now), it can steal some of the BRD's utility. We can all agree that BRD is currently overflowing with utility and can afford to share some of it with another job; and dancer would be an easy one to transfer to.

I would also hope for a new tank and healer job (especially since the ratio of total dps and tank/healer combinations jobs is tilting a little bit), but I do want SE to get a better understanding of what role they want the existing tanks and healers to do. Geomancer seems an interesting choice for an aoe healer, and I can see a hammer-wielding tank as a possibility in the future as well. A Blue Mage tank might be interesting as a way to combine Garlean or Allagan technologies for a debuff-type of tank, but I have no idea what mechanics would be good currently.

[CosmicKirby]

I expect a Gunblade using job that falls under the Physical Ranged Role, but has several abilities to run into melee similar to a RDM.

Beyond that, I'd enjoy a Green Mage who does 'dps' by instead providing damage boosting buffs or mitigation buffs constantly to other classes. Or possibly a Dancer type healer that heals in melee or uses TP.

I'm unsure of what I'd want for Tank, Blue Mage maybe? Uncertain.

[Telvorei]

I expect a Gunblade using job that falls under the Physical Ranged Role, but has several abilities to run into melee similar to a RDM.

Beyond that, I'd enjoy a Green Mage who does 'dps' by instead providing damage boosting buffs or mitigation buffs constantly to other classes. Or possibly a Dancer type healer that heals in melee or uses TP.

I'm unsure of what I'd want for Tank, Blue Mage maybe? Uncertain.

I always thought Green Mage was sort of built into Summoner when it came out in ARR. Historically, they were a status inducer/debuffer, and the dot system SMNs got reminded me of that.

I could see Garleans be Runefencers /Rune Knights with Gunblades. They can't use magic on their own and would have to use augmented rune stones to be able to use it. I think it would fit well.

[Ametrine]

The problem with Green Mage of that ilk is that kind of "does their job by improving others instead" gameplay sorta crashed and burned with Astro.

Balancing AST initially meant lower potencies on everything else, since the thought was the buffs would boost the party enough that you would be fine with the weaker heals. Buffbuffbuff later and AST's heals are on par/more powerful than the other two healers, they are almost indispensable for group content since they still have those buffs.

I'm not sure SE would want to try that kind of style again, even with a DPS.


Personally, I'd prefer a Green Mage being more of the DoT mage, now that SMN is moving away from that status.

[HyperSMB]

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SE is terrified of a true support class. It doesn't fit the Holy Trinity. How do you get DoT based class out of class that classically does not have a single DoT?

[Kazrah]

The problem with Green Mage of that ilk is that kind of "does their job by improving others instead" gameplay sorta crashed and burned with Astro.

That's actually why I've always suggested that Green Mage be a tank in order to fit the theme of buff/debuff specialist that it brings in FFTA2, not to mention that it was also the tankiest of all the Viera class options in that game.

[Telvorei]

That's actually why I've always suggested that Green Mage be a tank in order to fit the theme of buff/debuff specialist that it brings in FFTA2, not to mention that it was also the tankiest of all the Viera class options in that game.

Kaz, do you have any write-ups on some of the jobs we've been talking about in this thread? Curious to hear your thoughts and opinions on some jobs and potential roles

[Kazrah]

Kaz, do you have any write-ups on some of the jobs we've been talking about in this thread? Curious to hear your thoughts and opinions on some jobs and potential roles

Most of them are more or less outdated, but here is the whole list I had prior to the launch of Stormblood:

Tanks
Viking (shield and halfspear, mix of melee and lightning attacks)
Green Mage (hammer, based around ancient Dravanian lore)
Sorcerer (caster tank loosely designed off of Morpher from FFTA)
Hoplite (shield and dory, inspired by Greek/Spartan soldiers)
Dancer (polestaff, periodic shielding as quasi-evasion tanking system)

Melee
Blue Mage (*points to sig*)
Puppeteer (faux-pet job, "pet" does 100% of damage)
Charioteer (inspired by class from Bravely Second, designed around alternating through weapons)

Physical Ranged
Ranger (dual crossbows, mechanical re-imagination of Bard without songs)
Juggler (single dagger, goal of better comic relief from a job and job questline)
Agent ("secret agent" theme, inspired mechanically by Rift's Saboteur subclass)

Spellcasters
Merchant (job designed around a Wealth resource system, focused on indirect damage)
Reaper (answer to what the closest thing to a Necromancer-type job would be in FFXIV)
Sage (concept experiment to see if a job could revolve around manipulating a single spell)
Geomancer (caster with a rotation based around the Wu Xing)
Time Mage (caster designed around manipulating dots and delayed effects)

Healers
Performer (song-based healer built around increasing received healing on allies)
Grenadier (based off of Chemist, added a bazooka)
Saint (healer that deals melee damage, left it somewhere here on the forums)
Noble (fire-based healer because pyromaniacal girlfriend wanted a Disney princess job)
Physician (Othardian-themed healer built around manipulating periodic healing effects)

Non-Combat
Scavenger (DoL, designed around gathering leather and other items found off of monsters)
Antiquarian (DoH, specialized in making "artifacts", was still a work in progress)

[Telvorei]

Even if they merged them, still doesnt change that according to the AST quests "it exists."

I agree. Why bother specifying he is a Geomancer and even give him unique spells like "Qi of Earth" "Qi of Air" and "Qi of Water". Instead of stone, Aero, and water.

Doesn't make sense to put in extra work to do those little things when you're not going to even make it a playable job

I'm stilling remaining hopeful