Thank you SE

[Makeda]

You have it backwards and apparently can't properly read FFlogs. Higher percentile = more skilled players, not less skilled.

Let me hand you wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percentile

The term percentile and the related term percentile rank are often used in the reporting of scores from norm-referenced tests. For example, if a score is at the 86th percentile, where 86 is the percentile rank, it is equal to the value below which 86% of the observations may be found (carefully contrast with in the 86th percentile, which means the score is at or below the value of which 86% of the observations may be found - every score is in the 100th percentile). The 25th percentile is also known as the first quartile (Q1), the 50th percentile as the median or second quartile (Q2), and the 75th percentile as the third quartile (Q3). In general, percentiles and quartiles are specific types of quantiles.

You know... when they told you in school you were in the 90% Percentile... that means 90% of people were in the group you were in... If your score was '90% percentile'... 90% of people got to that ranking. That is basically the very bottom swimmers on the barrel... This is why EVERYONE is in the 100% percentile - even the guy who dropped out of school on day one.

[aleph_null]

If you look at 70% the statistics would be heavily affected by pug groups who are still stuck in pld MT war OT mentality, if you tell pld to pull the boss, take 3 assails in first phase, and no tank swaps to share mitigation burden, and possibly no shadewalker/shirk, of course the war OT would do higher. However looking at top 10 dps is also not a good idea since there are a lot of padded parses. I wouldn't take the 3.6k dps parse with over 7 min clear time seriously. I'd rather check the top 10-20 groups in static speed ranking and see how much their tanks do. Pld is definitely doing higher than war/drk in those optimized runs, but nowhere near 300-400 more dps.

Let me hand you wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percentile

"For example, if a score is at the 86th percentile, where 86 is the percentile rank, it is equal to the value below which 86% of the observations may be found (carefully contrast with in the 86th percentile, which means the score is at or below the value of which 86% of the observations may be found - every score is in the 100th percentile)."

Do you even read lol?

[SyzzleSpark]

You know... when they told you in school you were in the 90% Percentile... that means 90% of people were in the group you were in... If your score was '90% percentile'... 90% of people got to that ranking. That is basically the very bottom swimmers on the barrel... This is why EVERYONE is in the 100% percentile - even the guy who dropped out of school on day one.

That's actually incorrect. Being in 90th percentile means 90% of remaining observations are below that score. Saying otherwise is like saying 90+90=100.

You might think those gray/green/blue numbers are awesome but they're not.

[BluexBird]

So you have stats from only 10 individual players for each boss, and you call that meaningful?

I have stats for the top 70% of ALL fflogs players, for those two bosses. I think my stats have a LOT more tracking to them...

Yo I'm really happy for you, and I'MA LET YOU FINISH!!! But:

Susano's Top 100 Tanks: 74 Paladins, 17 Warriors and 9 Dark Knights.
Lakshimi's Top 100 Tanks: 58 Paladins, 31 Warriors, 11 Dark Knights.

Something something... OF ALL TIME!

[HoodRat]

You know... when they told you in school

They told me in school not to use Wikipedia as a source.

Edit: you also have percentiles backwards XD

[Clover210]

I think your point is pretty clear. Some of us just think being upset over a small DPS nerf on PLD is ludicrous considering we just want the tanks to be balanced.

Being upset as in, "Boooo... oh well" is one thing, but the extent that PLDs are acting like its the end of the world for them is a serious slap in the face to the other tanks. By all means keep believing whatever you want though.

Again with the hyperbole strawman for PLDs, thanks for proving my point once again.

[LadyCeles]

u dont need yo feel sorry for anyone. Get off ur high horse. Ill be fine i wont be pushed outof my raid group but u know as much as me the community only cares about DPS. So newer plds wanting to get into groups will have a harder time. Doesnt mean they wont get into a group. People putting together new groups will want top 2 dps more often then not. And when DRK and WAR have faster and more big def CDs make them better for MT and will have more dps to OT. Thats what i said. Ive always said PLD should have lowest dps but NOT by a large margin. We might have more utility but it doesnt add to DPS. Personally i dont care about what classes r in raid as long as we dont penalize the LB, i wont turn away a good player for a mediocre player just because there class

[BluexBird]

Personally i dont care about what classes r in raid as long as we dont penalize the LB, i wont turn away a good player for a mediocre player just because there class

And you think other people won't think this way? Even if "DPS" means everything, if the margins are close to each other the way they should be, people would have to be incredibly obnoxious to rule out the lowest damaging class. In fact, if you get turned down from a group because of your job, it should be a good indicator that you should probably not be raiding with that group in the first place. Obnoxious pricks. -_-

[Tegernako]

u dont need yo feel sorry for anyone. Get off ur high horse. Ill be fine i wont be pushed outof my raid group but u know as much as me the community only cares about DPS. So newer plds wanting to get into groups will have a harder time. Doesnt mean they wont get into a group. People putting together new groups will want top 2 dps more often then not. And when DRK and WAR have faster and more big def CDs make them better for MT and will have more dps to OT. Thats what i said. Ive always said PLD should have lowest dps but NOT by a large margin. We might have more utility but it doesnt add to DPS. Personally i dont care about what classes r in raid as long as we dont penalize the LB, i wont turn away a good player for a mediocre player just because there class

Um...I've never turned away anyone because of class lol

Not even in raids.

[Tegernako]

Yo I'm really happy for you, and I'MA LET YOU FINISH!!! But:

Susano's Top 100 Tanks: 74 Paladins, 17 Warriors and 9 Dark Knights.
Lakshimi's Top 100 Tanks: 58 Paladins, 31 Warriors, 11 Dark Knights.

Something something... OF ALL TIME!

Something something WAR mitigation awesome MT better then PLD.