Thank you SE

[FallenWings]

Oh dear I see that auto correct now.

Anyways @dizzy I only want to say that warrior in 3.0 was mindlessly easy. Like SAM levels of low effort high results easy so I can't at all agree that there was a reasonable skill gap present. The majority of "top" WAR parsing is honeslty just how many Fell Crits you got and if you had balance. Otherwise the rotation was a joke and I'd even say the PLD rotation was slightly more complex, both equally braindead and can be top parsed with one hand however.

I wouldn't say current WAR rotation is as hard as people make it out to be right now but as you say that there might be a higher quality of players in WAR, I honestly would say the majority og quality players who played WAR have either swapped to PLD or left the role altogether.

Naturally these are all guesses so take it as you will.

[aleph_null]

Optimizing the current war rotation is a lot harder due to infuriate's new trait. Maximizing infuriate usage outside berserk may require delaying subsequent berserks by a few gcds and thus misaligning it with other buffs like trick attack, embolden etc, or even worse you might risk losing berserk usage/uptime depending on mechanics/phase pushes, so it's very fight/phase/group dependent. However, holding infuriate and using it exclusively for berserk doesn't seem to cause too much dps loss anyway.

[Marxam]

While I agree that it is a little trickier to get the timing, especially when you factor in mechanics, I always try to maintain above 50 gauge so I have at least 5% crit at all times and if I see that IR and Berserk is up but Infuriate is <15 secs till off cd I use it because the two FC's at the start and the gcds will have it up for when I need to use it.

Just a good rule of thumb really if you have Berserk up, 100 gauge and Infuriate is <15 secs you can go Berserk. Timing and FC priority will determine how much you can force Infuriate out of cd but you can technically go up to < 25 secs on Infuriate reuse when you first pop IR and berserk.

When it comes to party alignment its really a loss for us since we only get our burst going after 30 seconds into the fight since we need to build gauge to 100 for full burst. Unless you are willing to give up two fell cleaves in the IR rotation for 50 gauge at the start.

[Dizzy_Derp]

When it comes to party alignment its really a loss for us since we only get our burst going after 30 seconds into the fight since we need to build gauge to 100 for full burst. Unless you are willing to give up two fell cleaves in the IR rotation for 50 gauge at the start.

It's a huge dps loss to actually build to 100 on the opener. Its never gonna be worth it unless it's like lakshimi where you can build your gauge before the boss drops and everyone else starts those openers. Its just way too much to lose out on all of the raid wide buffs you can't recoup it. Same as in 3.x how it was higher damage to do a double cleave in the opener rather than building for the triple.

[BluexBird]

Use Infuriate first thing into the fight, and pop Berserk/Inner Release right after Storm's Eye. Getting 4 Fell Cleaves in is worth more than holding on to Berserk/Inner Release/Infuriate to land 6 of them.

If you do this in Lakshmimi you can get in 2 Inner Release rotations before she transitions.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

PLD utility lowers there DPS further

PLD loses nothing for their utility. Neither Intervention/DV/Cov affect their DPS in any way. You may have an argument for PoA, but that depends how long it needs to be channeled.

[NewSinz]

"Oh no WAR can stance dance again all the other Tanks are now garbage ....except not really..." PLD's are stronger then ever... real paladins wanted the nerf to holy spirit spam... They dont want to be meta they just wanted to be useful which they are now.

[AziraSyuren]

Personally, I want every tank to be overpowered because I main and enjoy all three of them.

[Dizzy_Derp]

Use Infuriate first thing into the fight, and pop Berserk/Inner Release right after Storm's Eye. Getting 4 Fell Cleaves in is worth more than holding on to Berserk/Inner Release/Infuriate to land 6 of them.

If you do this in Lakshmimi you can get in 2 Inner Release rotations before she transitions.

You shouldn't be popping seek after eye you should be after the following maim.

[eagledorf]

So, all y'alls looking at FFLogs are wrong. You need to look at the percentiles, not the top parsers (because if, say, only 1 person played WAR and 10 million played PLD of course the top parses will all be PLD that got lucky), but the -Balance feature is only for the top parses so right now there's no really meaningful way to look at the numbers.

Look at how Balance messes up DRK's rankings (they move way up if you remove Balance, which makes sense since they aren't likely to get it other than RR spread and they don't have a "burst" phase like WAR) and it's pretty clear looking at the numbers that include Balance is totally meaningless.