Thank you SE

[VenKitsune]

its a step in the right directions but its still not 100% balanced. with these changes DRK will be the least desirable tank due to a significant lack of defensive cooldowns.

[eagledorf]

Again, wait for Tuesday because we have no idea what the changes will be. It's just too early for any kind of feedback on changes that don't even exist yet.

But yeah, if 4.05 rolls around and DRK/PLD isn't at least equal to any comp including a WAR, some people at SE most definitely need to lose their jobs.

That's really all there is to it. That's basically the standard for tank balance coming out of HW. DRK+PLD needs to be desirable.

[ovIm]

But yeah, if 4.05 rolls around and DRK/PLD isn't at least equal to any comp including a WAR, some people at SE most definitely need to lose their jobs.

As a WAR main, I completely agree. I want to see every combination viable, preferably having different combinations best on different fights to ensure there is no "guaranteed" spot. Im sick of the stale "only this comp pls" mentality.

[RaizeGraymalkin]

Again, wait for Tuesday because we have no idea what the changes will be. It's just too early for any kind of feedback on changes that don't even exist yet.

But yeah, if 4.05 rolls around and DRK/PLD isn't at least equal to any comp including a WAR, some people at SE most definitely need to lose their jobs.

That's really all there is to it. That's basically the standard for tank balance coming out of HW. DRK+PLD needs to be desirable.

Yeah people should lose their jobs, because of fucking tank balance. This fucking community man. I get that you were probably being somewhat facetious, but even still.

[eagledorf]

Yeah people should lose their jobs, because of fucking tank balance. This fucking community man. I get that you were probably being somewhat facetious, but even still.

Actually, I'm quite serious.

I mean, if you have somebody working under you that makes the exact same mistake over and over again and you don't remove them from that job, then honestly it's your failure, not theirs. They're just trying their best to do the job that you're assigned to them and they don't get to tell you you're doing a bad job by assigning them that task because you're the boss.

If WAR is a lock again, that means they've made the exact same mistake 6 times in a row including after a very expensive major rework; leaving them to that task expecting them to get it right the 7th time is a monumental failure of management. In fact, it's delusion. Not only will they not get it right, they're guaranteed to just get it wrong exactly the same way again. The only reasonable decision is to reallocate your resources and remove those people from a task they're just incapable of and put them to a task they are able to do and bring in somebody else to do the first task who is capable of it. That's how you manage human resources, it's no different for your stockholders from making sure you budget for enough electricity to keep the servers running.

FWIW actually firing people is quite rare in Japanese culture. Toyota is a great example of this management culture, they hold on to employees even when they can't really afford them and will even pay for random retraining. It works out for Toyota too because their employees are less inclined to unionize. Usually people are simply reassigned. If somebody is truly incapable they're "reassigned" to just sit there and not get in anybody's way, but that would be if they've already failed at everything else. I would hope that SE isn't assigning the people who have already failed at everything else to tank balance after 2 years of promising us they'd get it right in SB!

Again though, wait for Tuesday. For all we know they've done a perfect job. When they discarded tank balance for an entire expansion with promises that it would be fixed in this one, they sure better have.

[Dizzy_Derp]

Yay STR on accessories.

Wanna bet it's gonna be something like 20-30 STR, thereby making absolutely no difference to the current situation because VIT is still a binary stat that loses all value past the line of necessity?

Calling it right now.

If so whatever we got the 270 and if we are still equipping them because of super low are then they will see and add more str

[Argyle_Darkheart]

The changes they revealed are much appreciated, but I'm still holding out hope that Inner Release and Unchained have their recasts separated.

[FearShadow]

They said that their goal was for us to stop using i270 acc. So either their planned accessories will be close or somewhat better and/or they will lock us tanks out of the i270 str acc

[MahoSenshi]

Gz WARs with another patch cycle of tank meta domination. Bye-bye PLD/DRK comps.

[Gildarts]

pretty sure it wont be better

Q1. Currently some tanks stack STR on their accessories to increase their DPS, are changes planned for tank accessories themselves?

A1. We will be introducing adjustments in Tuesday’s patch 4.05.
We have received feedback from tanks regarding continuing to equip item level 270 accessories.

This puts more stress on the healers, and a lack of VIT may become an issue as we enter Savage. However, top players may be able to clear even under those conditions, so we worry that that will become the norm.

As a result, we have decided to add a minimum amount of STR to accessories.
When level syncing, only tanks will have STR stacked up, but we will overlook this for content up through 3.x.

Item level will increase in coming updates, but STR will not scale the same as VIT, so we would like you to keep that in mind.