Healer adjustment in 4.05

[IanFrench]

Probably because sch's shield is fine. Adlo is still better than A.Benefic in both amount of hp restored and the shield if heal is critical.

[Rubiss]

Probably because sch's shield is fine. Adlo is still better than A.Benefic in both amount of hp restored and the shield if heal is critical.

Assuming you crit 30% of the time, Aspected Benefic is more shield value. On top of costing less and being instant cast. It's better hands down in nearly every regard. Comparing critical potencies, it's not even that far behind Adlo. It's anything but fine.

[amihavingfunyet]

■Scholar
Some good changes here for Miasma 2, Fey Union and Aetherpact/Faerie Gauge.
"Strengthening" (whatever this means) Excog and "stay tuned" for Indom paired with a (new?) trait for reduced AF CD seems like a can of worms, that could possibly shoot SCH right back into their 100% "mandatory" seat.

■Astrologian

・Arcana and Royal Road cards can now be discarded via an action.

SE should stop making abilities for this, they are clunky (can't be used while you cast) and have worse functionality than removing any of the card/buffs in 3.x. Arcana Gauge just needs to have the ability to let you click any card or buff off like the buff bar would allow you to.

■White Mage

・Adjustments to the rate of which Healing Lilies are granted.

Could be good, could be meh.
Simply generating more Lilies isn't solving the problem, that the WHM has little to no control over Lily use. Having Benison only cost 1 Lily (and only 1, no matter how many you have) would be a good start.

・Plenary Indulgence will see some major adjustments.

Can't say much, depends how they make it work.
Overall the apparent weaknesses are still there, no raid DPS utility and only 1 mitigation tool, that's also only single target (Diurnal AST still brings CU and possibly the Bole)
Edit: Just to clarify, I'm mostly happy the way WHM plays right now.

[Novak_04]

I tried being reasonable you seem to think ever fight is A you get a godly amount balance or B you get none at all and all you had say was it's still rng and that's why it's balanced. Belive it or not there is a middle ground. And I thought 3 was a pretty decent middle ground since I can do like 5 aoe at once

Btw Im a whm main but been playing ast cuz it's obvious how broken it is. Aoe damage buffs aoe benediction that has no cast time and don't have to be charged to be good.

5 AoE's at once? Wow, you've somehow broken the game and bypassed the limitation of recast times. Impressive.

Of course there is a middle ground, however I have simply been countering all of your arguments with math. Make an argument for a middle ground that doesn't consist of "luck" and I'll gladly hear you out.

White mage is in a good place at the moment. Most of the changes people are calling for are to fix animation delays, more synergy between lilies (and their tied in abilities) and confessions, etc. The only REAL plea people are making is for a rework of Plenary Indulgence, which is getting fixed. I stand by a former statement: Nerfing Astros and Buffing White Mage/Scholar is NOT the same thing.

[technole]

Yeah, some forget even a Noct A.Benefic costs the same as a Helios.

Adlo is fine for what it does and being able to deploy. The cost maybe a bit high at level 70 like many have been alluding to. I'll reserve judgement once we see the revised Aetherflow trait. If anything, having more stacks "sooner" can alleviate this point and build fairy gauge more.

[Deox]

I'm good with these changes, pretty much lines up with the few things I felt could be better. That emergency tactics change is straight up weird tho

[Novak_04]

I can't wait to see what they do with Plenary Indulgence. I'm excited to see what they have for Indom too!

[technole]

You are not alone. I'm still scratching my head on the Emergency Tactics change. It does help SCH/SCH combos better I suppose. As ET isn't used like a regular cooldown over Indom when possible.

[Lunafreya]

AST has been my main ever since 3.0 but the class has just become grossly broken now. I don't know why we keep getting buffs. I love the fact that we do but isn't it fair to acknowledge we are in fact a little too OP? This is seriously speaking.

[simiii]

5 AoE's at once? Wow, you've somehow broken the game and bypassed the limitation of recast times. Impressive.

Of course there is a middle ground, however I have simply been countering all of your arguments with math. Make an argument for a middle ground that doesn't consist of "luck" and I'll gladly hear you out.

White mage is in a good place at the moment. Most of the changes people are calling for are to fix animation delays, more synergy between lilies (and their tied in abilities) and confessions, etc. The only REAL plea people are making is for a rework of Plenary Indulgence, which is getting fixed. I stand by a former statement: Nerfing Astros and Buffing White Mage/Scholar is NOT the same thing.

Ya that was worded poorly my bad 5 aoe in 1 fight most I can do at once is like 3 and that's actually pretty hard