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    Paladinleeds's Avatar
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ADVSS View Post
    This has got to be the best sig ever
    Yep, and it exactly mirrors my thoughts. I can count on one hand the amount of times I've been kicked from a DF group, in all my 3 years of playing. And I've done everything from small pulls to large pulls. This is making me think the OP is hiding something that suggests the real reason he got kicked.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maeka View Post
    Yeah, that's unacceptable behavior, even if they were undergeared.

    Now, frankly, i90 is too low for Aery. But if they were able to keep the tank alive despite their low I-level, then hey. As long as you clear the dungeon. Now, if there were wipes and such, and if the healer could not keep him alive during even normal pulls, then yeah. A kick might have been warranted if the healer was preventing them from clearing the dungeon.

    But this obviously was not the case, as they got clear to the last boss.

    This horrible behavior by a terrible tank is in no way indicative of all tanks, and most of your better tanks will agree that this is just unacceptable behavior whatsoever.
    Now I'm not an amazing tank by any stretch of the imagination, but I agree it is unacceptable behaviour. In fact, I would go so far as to suggest that tank should be reported to the GMs for play-related harassment. Sure, there might have been a few butt-clenching moments for me as a tank, but if you were getting me healed through the duty, even if you're undergeared, I'm fine with that. I would however suggest to improve their gear after dungeon though as i90 gear is cutting it a little too fine for The Aery, and beyond that is a complete no-go.

    Quote Originally Posted by Altena View Post
    Final note - it's a team game. The goal is to finish the duty as quickly as possible, however that doesn't mean if you fail a pull you should quit, moan or point blame. Put those boots back on and adjust to the rest of your party.
    E-{bang}-xactly! If something goes wrong, I won't point blame. I will just say "Ok, that didn't work out as well as I had hoped, here's how I will prevent that happening next time" (actually had that in Doma Castle, I got a bit too eager on one of the pulls and it threw my SCH for a loop, just that one pull in particular, others of similar size were OK, I think it was the individual mobs involved that caused the problem), so I slowed down for that pull. After that, we were able to speed back up again, though both me and the healer had a few butt-clenching moments! But skillful healing on her part and passable use of defensive cooldowns on my part and no other deaths were had. So kudos to that healer, I pushed myself out of my comfort zone and you handled it amazingly!

    Quote Originally Posted by Adire View Post
    I had the OP in a dungeon the other day. We were in the Aery, the healer had ilvl 90-ish gear mostly and he complained about it the whole run despite the healer keeping him alive. They argued a lot, we got to the last boss, then he demanded we either kick the healer, kick him, or sit there and wait for the dungeon to time out. The healer told him to just finish the run because they didn't want to hurt us (the dps), he (the OP) refused.

    The healer really should've had better gear, but they were getting the job done. And when he decided to hold the group hostage we decided to just kick him. Luckily we got a replacement tank instantly and cleared the dungeon. OP, you should work on your attitude.
    Aha, that explains why he's getting kicks out the wazoo and I seem to have no problems. That's exactly it, since I take an encouraging and solutions-driven attitude to problems, people have no reason to kick me, because it drives a more positive attitude in. Someone has a signature with it in... Be an Optimist Prime, not a Negatron. (I have to admit thinking of that has me laughing my head off)
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    Last edited by Paladinleeds; 07-14-2017 at 05:02 PM.
    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.