Getting Kicked as a Tank from Dungeons for Power Pulls! No more for me!

[bswpayton]

I see you dont have tried healing in past level 60 dungeons yet, OP - maybe you want to do that and see the problems a healer is facing before you decide wether or not they should be able to handle them.

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I actually get bored when a tank pulls three adds at a time and it seems they are more likely to do die cause im not payin attention and maybe talkin in chat and stuff like that I know my fault but still. At level 60 plus this is standard gameplay and people should be use to these big pulls by now, you can do it in shom al , dusk vigil, the avery , the vault, gubal libary all of them so why not do it in these new dungeons as well. My fav pull is in the same dungeon u mention pullin everything after the second boss i hate just pullin those four adds at the start its super boring.

The issue prob is , that alot of tanks forget they can use living dead, hollowed on pali , I dont know about warrior they seem pretty squsihy so I may do smaller pulls on them when I play them sense they no longer have blood bath anymore. But scholar does kinda suck at the moment Ive noticed they have the hardest time handling the big pulls Ill just hope I dont get to many of them in dungeons anymore fingers crossed.

[Kethic]

I've only vote kicked a tank once, and it wasn't for pulling too much or too fast for the party. It was for being an asshole. These behaviors may overlap in some cases.

As has been said, if you're getting repeatedly kicked, you're the problem.

[Canadane]

I note the OP didn't exactly give the full lineup of DPS+Healer jobs as well as the instances involved where a kick was instigated.

Only time I wanted to lose our tank was in Dzamael Darkhold, where the tank decided to pull ALL of the hippogryph mobs with a monk and dragoon (me) as DPS. I'm sure the healer was having fits. After both DPS dying to the AoE's of the trash mobs, the tank 'rethought' large pulls in that instance.

That type of pull is pretty standard considering the light buff reduced your damage taken.
The DPS makeup doesn't generally play a factor.

[tyrantdragon]

I for one am so sick of these so-called Super Tank these power pullers who do not have the common courtesy to ask the healers who are probably undergeared in the first time in the dungeon if they mind being super pulled and then I have even witnessed this because the Tank died and so sad super pool because the and so sad super pool because the healer could not handle the damage or heal the amount of damage this so sad Super Super Tank was taking and then after Super Tank after Super Tank died he cussed out the Healer I was in the party with the Healer because it was Mike 14 year old daughter these tanks need to be punished because this is a grievance I can understand if there was an agreement between the Healer and so said Super Tank but when a tank does it without proper approval from the Healer then it is the tanks fault

[ElroyDrundan]

The leveling dungeons between 50-60 and 60-70 are different than the end game dungeons in that you can't over gear them by much. They lvl sync your gear to 1 lvl above the dungeon (which is what 5-7iLvls or so?). The first couple dungeons are usually not a big deal but pulling a large number of groups past that can really stress the healer/healing. Not to mention there are no minimum gear levels for these dungeons (I have never understood why this is the case).

I still find healing the vault more challenging than any of the end game dungeons(experts both 60 and 70) even at the beginning of the expansion. I'm sure part of this is so many don't understand the mechanics. But we are allowed to overgear the end game dungeons so they quickly become MOAR BIG PULLZ.

[Mikhaill]

I had the OP in a dungeon the other day. We were in the Aery, the healer had ilvl 90-ish gear mostly and he complained about it the whole run despite the healer keeping him alive. They argued a lot, we got to the last boss, then he demanded we either kick the healer, kick him, or sit there and wait for the dungeon to time out. The healer told him to just finish the run because they didn't want to hurt us (the dps), he (the OP) refused.

The healer really should've had better gear, but they were getting the job done. And when he decided to hold the group hostage we decided to just kick him. Luckily we got a replacement tank instantly and cleared the dungeon. OP, you should work on your attitude.

I knew it. I knew it was him acting up.
@ OP - grow up.

[Millen1]

I switched from sch main to drk main in SB. I don't ask the healer as to the size pull as I do not want to offend or leave them feeling slighted, I only pull one mob at a time. If the healer indicates he can handle a bigger pull, I will do that. If that works out and the healer is happy, I continue that way. It is not uncommon now that by the end of the dungeon I receive a thank you in chat from not only healers but also dps for not pulling as much as I can. No one wants to wait forever in df and then chronically wipe in content.

[Annah]

I had the OP in a dungeon the other day. We were in the Aery, the healer had ilvl 90-ish gear mostly and he complained about it the whole run despite the healer keeping him alive. They argued a lot, we got to the last boss, then he demanded we either kick the healer, kick him, or sit there and wait for the dungeon to time out. The healer told him to just finish the run because they didn't want to hurt us (the dps), he (the OP) refused.

The healer really should've had better gear, but they were getting the job done. And when he decided to hold the group hostage we decided to just kick him. Luckily we got a replacement tank instantly and cleared the dungeon. OP, you should work on your attitude.

i sorta knew there was another side of the story. Thanks!

[bswpayton]

I for one am so sick of these so-called Super Tank these power pullers who do not have the common courtesy to ask the healers who are probably undergeared in the first time in the dungeon if they mind being super pulled and then I have even witnessed this because the Tank died and so sad super pool because the and so sad super pool because the healer could not handle the damage or heal the amount of damage this so sad Super Super Tank was taking and then after Super Tank after Super Tank died he cussed out the Healer I was in the party with the Healer because it was Mike 14 year old daughter these tanks need to be punished because this is a grievance I can understand if there was an agreement between the Healer and so said Super Tank but when a tank does it without proper approval from the Healer then it is the tanks fault

helps everyone get better at the end of the day no need to ask the healer big pull always everyone will learn to get use to it

[Elfidan]

To be fair on my road from sixty to seventy as Dark Knight I was asked almost every dungeon to pull all the trash each segment contained. I was not comfortable with it because I feel squishier this expansion , but I did it without complaint because what my healer wants my healer gets. There was some nail biting ,and living dead may have been used a handful of times , but even the few odd wipes that happened were not met with bile or contempt. I think you may have been unlucky in who you were matched with , or some details may have been omitted due to the fact that they may demonize your role in the events that unfolded. You also have to consider group composition... just because your healer is awesome and can keep you up doesn't mean you have the AOE damage to make large pulls reasonable. Sorry you got kicked, that sucks.