Getting Kicked as a Tank from Dungeons for Power Pulls! No more for me!

[Adire]

So far haven't had a tank die in SB content with my healing, though I'm only a level 66 sch at the moment. I've had them do dangerous pulls and sometimes they're bad at avoiding the aoe's, but I really think healers can output more healing and for a longer period of time than they think they can.

Had a few of them pop their immortality a few times. Just because I knew they were going to live when they only had 6% HP doesn't mean they knew, I guess.

To be fair, you have to pop it at least a second or more ahead of reaching 0 HP or it'll eat the CD without actually making you immortal. At least Hallowed Ground is bad about doing that. So it's either use it way ahead of time or risk dying and losing the CD.

Haha...I figured something was off with OP's story considering the amount of kicks they were subject to.

Thank you for sharing your experience - it was enlightening.

Yeah. I can believe he gets kicked frequently if this is his usual behavior. Attempting to hold a group, including innocent people hostage because you disagree with one person is about the lowest thing you can do as a tank.

[Defiled]

Sounds as if you, and other tanks I've seen recently, have forgotten that healers have others to heal as well as the tank, I have seen tons of tanks recently rush in, power pull, and expect the healer and the dps to save their bacon....as a melee dps, most of these power pulls in SB dungeons comes with tons of AOE on the ground, which means your standing in it, or running out, which means no dps and its the healers that suffer trying to keep everybody up.
I for one have never been in such a hurry to complete a dungeon that power pulls are necessary, I mean, whats the point....tanks need not prove anything to me, just hold agro, keep mobs to a number where I can handle the AOE and the healers can heal us all.....everybody happy

[Kethic]

I've only vote kicked a tank once, and it wasn't for pulling too much or too fast for the party. It was for being an asshole. These behaviors may overlap in some cases.

As has been said, if you're getting repeatedly kicked, you're the problem.

[tyrantdragon]

I for one am so sick of these so-called Super Tank these power pullers who do not have the common courtesy to ask the healers who are probably undergeared in the first time in the dungeon if they mind being super pulled and then I have even witnessed this because the Tank died and so sad super pool because the and so sad super pool because the healer could not handle the damage or heal the amount of damage this so sad Super Super Tank was taking and then after Super Tank after Super Tank died he cussed out the Healer I was in the party with the Healer because it was Mike 14 year old daughter these tanks need to be punished because this is a grievance I can understand if there was an agreement between the Healer and so said Super Tank but when a tank does it without proper approval from the Healer then it is the tanks fault

[bswpayton]

I for one am so sick of these so-called Super Tank these power pullers who do not have the common courtesy to ask the healers who are probably undergeared in the first time in the dungeon if they mind being super pulled and then I have even witnessed this because the Tank died and so sad super pool because the and so sad super pool because the healer could not handle the damage or heal the amount of damage this so sad Super Super Tank was taking and then after Super Tank after Super Tank died he cussed out the Healer I was in the party with the Healer because it was Mike 14 year old daughter these tanks need to be punished because this is a grievance I can understand if there was an agreement between the Healer and so said Super Tank but when a tank does it without proper approval from the Healer then it is the tanks fault

helps everyone get better at the end of the day no need to ask the healer big pull always everyone will learn to get use to it

[ElroyDrundan]

The leveling dungeons between 50-60 and 60-70 are different than the end game dungeons in that you can't over gear them by much. They lvl sync your gear to 1 lvl above the dungeon (which is what 5-7iLvls or so?). The first couple dungeons are usually not a big deal but pulling a large number of groups past that can really stress the healer/healing. Not to mention there are no minimum gear levels for these dungeons (I have never understood why this is the case).

I still find healing the vault more challenging than any of the end game dungeons(experts both 60 and 70) even at the beginning of the expansion. I'm sure part of this is so many don't understand the mechanics. But we are allowed to overgear the end game dungeons so they quickly become MOAR BIG PULLZ.

[Millen1]

I switched from sch main to drk main in SB. I don't ask the healer as to the size pull as I do not want to offend or leave them feeling slighted, I only pull one mob at a time. If the healer indicates he can handle a bigger pull, I will do that. If that works out and the healer is happy, I continue that way. It is not uncommon now that by the end of the dungeon I receive a thank you in chat from not only healers but also dps for not pulling as much as I can. No one wants to wait forever in df and then chronically wipe in content.

[Elfidan]

To be fair on my road from sixty to seventy as Dark Knight I was asked almost every dungeon to pull all the trash each segment contained. I was not comfortable with it because I feel squishier this expansion , but I did it without complaint because what my healer wants my healer gets. There was some nail biting ,and living dead may have been used a handful of times , but even the few odd wipes that happened were not met with bile or contempt. I think you may have been unlucky in who you were matched with , or some details may have been omitted due to the fact that they may demonize your role in the events that unfolded. You also have to consider group composition... just because your healer is awesome and can keep you up doesn't mean you have the AOE damage to make large pulls reasonable. Sorry you got kicked, that sucks.

[Maeka]

Yeah, that's unacceptable behavior, even if they were undergeared.

Now, frankly, i90 is too low for Aery. But if they were able to keep the tank alive despite their low I-level, then hey. As long as you clear the dungeon. Now, if there were wipes and such, and if the healer could not keep him alive during even normal pulls, then yeah. A kick might have been warranted if the healer was preventing them from clearing the dungeon.

But this obviously was not the case, as they got clear to the last boss.

This horrible behavior by a terrible tank is in no way indicative of all tanks, and most of your better tanks will agree that this is just unacceptable behavior whatsoever.

[hynaku]

I like tanks that do small pulls better. Most tanks I see that do huge pulls is under geared and you can't heal them fast enough or they use sprint and leave healer behind where can't target them with healing spells. But have seen a lot good tanks where have no problems with large pulls.