SB is great, but are there any plans to shake up the endgame formula?

[Insensate]

I agree with the OP aswell. I feel like the content is always coming in the same pattern and we rarely see something new like potd or diadem.
For most of the content there are just background changes like where the setting is and different boss rotations. I dont complain about the amount of content coming or the time in between, that´s really great. But it kinda feels like its mostly the same with different color.

I really miss more open world content like the hunts. Diadem was an attempt but it failed for me alone because it was an instance like any other dungeon and kinda boring because there was nothing spectacular to find there.

Also I think content should not always or simply be designed to give us tokens for endgame stuff. Some content should focus on just being fun playing and something that keeps us playing between the patches. I really have hopes for Eureka to be more exciting in the long term and keep ppl playing the game and have fun doing so.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Hes in for a rude awakening similar to 1.0 when he realizes this kind of content delivery and design is stale and boring and will cause a huge loss in player-base once something better releases.

Considering the profit FFXIV has brought Square Enix over the last four years-- enough to fund two of their biggest titles, FFXV and FFVII: Remake. I don't think people have got the memo to start unsubbing.

[Amaterasu89]

Stop talking like leveling other jobs is "content". we're talking about actual content, something you log in and can do to progress your character in some form that give you an edge in harder content.

Exactly!! How is leveling all the other jobs content?
You're still just grinding away at the same old boring Palace of the dead, I wish FF had something similar to Mythic + in WoW.
Why get all the ARR relics?
Everything you mentioned just seems like "filler"

This honestly makes me kinda miss WoW, blizzard actually did a great job, you can play casually or you can play as much as you want and you'll always have some way to progress your character.

[Maero]

Well we still get fetch quests and fates are involved for seasonal events, and of course every Primal or what not needs an EX version. I believe SE do not like change overly much, lol

[Vanfrano]

Considering the profit FFXIV has brought Square Enix over the last four years-- enough to fund two of their biggest titles, FFXV and FFVII: Remake. I don't think people have got the memo to start unsubbing.

Do you really think that FFXIV alone funded these games? Stop believing FFXIV is some kind of savior for SE.
They pop lazy games, mobile games and remakes left and right to make easy money (FFXIV included), to release more lazy games to make more easy money. Square Enix is only using the name Final Fantasy knowing that, stupid as we are, we will buy everything, they've been releasing terrible games for the past few years, again FFXIV included.
Remove the name and no one would be here, FFXIV would have vanished into the abyss.

[Tinibou]

The problem is that FFXIV is a MMO with monthly fee and I think that this business model is more a pain in the *** than anything else.
I see more and more F2P games that keep evoluting constantly and often in the best way and well, it's just logic.

Since people is paying a subscription to play, SE can't afford to make drastic changes to their games. And it will never happen because if they do something players really don't like, they will stop their subscription. On the other sides, F2P games have no obligation of that kind. They can make huge changes in their game, they can adjust these changes later, it's not that a big deal. Not at the same level.

I've just seen yesterday what Digital Extremes has in plan for Warframe and it's just crazy. And their game is totally F2P ! It's even not a business modal like TESO where you pay the game and the DLC. It's 100% free and still, they have the money and the gusts to decide "Hey guys ! Let's make our first open world map with huge changes in the gameplay !" And why do they have the money to afford that development costs ? Because their game is great and because their community supports them. A lot of players are willing to pay some platinum here and there, sometimes, often. And it works.

I know a lot of players think that the F2P model is bad and all. And obviously there are some games that do not handle it the right way and simply do not succeed. BUT I don't think it would be a bad thing for FFXIV to change its model and become F2P. There could be an optional subscription like TESO, the game and DLC would be paid like TESO but anyone could play the full game for free. They already implemented a cash shop after all. I think that they would earn more money with that model than right now. AND the game would be totally different. They would dare to change things.

But it will never happen.
And if the name would be removed, FFXIV would vanished in the abyss, then it's just a matter of time before more and more people give up this never ending boring end-game formula.

[Voltyblast]

Do you really think that FFXIV alone funded these games? Stop believing FFXIV is some kind of savior for SE.

Maybe not entirely, but if it isn't then why they bothered to rework it from scratch and relaunch it? I'm fairly certain they could've kept it as it is since hardcore fans enjoyed it and even defended it to a certain degree (to each their own, but objectively speaking it had issues) and they could've just kept it shut down for all they cared. It's fair to assume that they wanted their money worth and decided to rework for that reason only and for what I remember, they were in bankruptcy at the time.

And for all I know, they did get their money back and now they're just pushing enough content to keep enough people subbed, with the occasional expansion to get even more cash. And people say they did it as an apology...now THAT'S a lie.

Hey I might be wrong, but ARR still felt the most packed when it comes to content despite its shallow launch.

[Eldevern]

Remove the name and no one would be here, FFXIV would have vanished into the abyss.

This is maybe going a bit far. FFXIV is not that bad. If it be, many people would play other game as some F2P instead. I return to FFXIV because some other MMO are even worse

That being said, I didn't had hype for SB expecting some routine in the pattern and... unfortunatly it is. Levelling is always the same. Colors and apparences changes but we always do basically the same things.

Housing is broken, we miss some kind of random unexpected fun in the open world and dungeons are very very linear.

If F2P were that fantastic they would have a greater success. But they all turn to P2F when not P2W and glamour is most of time just prohibitive.

(Now with my little experience, there are some good ideas to take in FFXIV, RO, BDO, Aion and Wildstar to build a great MMO)

People suggest maybe players who feel like a lack of something should take a break in the game, are too starved and it is their fault to rush. As someone who don't especially rush, there is something missing in the game anyway.

Why always 4/8/24 players teams? Can't they try other formats? 3/5/6/12 for example? People will not unsubscribe for one trial with an other format. SE changes the environment but never the player schema.

[Driavna]

Question: What's the big deal? If you no longer have fun playing it move on or wait for the next big patch, that's SE problem not yours as a player. I mention this because after reading some post I would say someone is forcing them to play FFXIV!

Anyway, I love the pacing but also would like a wide range of combat activities.

[Lexia]

I don't see people's obsession with potd I was in it like twice and never went back.