With all the negativity around war let's talk about the best part of 4.0!

[Mycow8me]

Be honest. How many times were you actually in Defiance with Bloodbath+Vengeance+OP Spam? It was better support for tanking in Deliverance. I mean, I miss seeing all those return heals as much as the next warrior, but lets be real, most warriors want to tank in Deliverance full time - regardless of any benefit from Defiance. Remember, Lord Warrior Xenosys himself said, "if you're tanking in Defiance you're doing it wrong"

You are only speaking in terms of garbage pulls. I'm talking in terms of main tanking a boss which is what defiance is about... Bloodbath was our HP weave between thrill and equilibrium cooldown. We lost it and our survivability is that much lower now. I dont care about the bloodbath+vengeance+OP spam, that was SE's shortsightedness on tanks with AOEs. Unchained could be changed to bloodrage and attach a regen affect to the next inner beast HP recovery for 20 seconds instead of what it currently is. There's lots of things SE could do but currently defiance is lacking.

Edit: And if you want me to "be honest" Main tanking on warrior isn't nearly as fun as off tanking because our toolkit for offtanking is that much stronger than our toolkit for maintanking due to its dps output... It's not even about bloodbath+vengeance+OP spam, its about making both our toolkits fun, intuitive, and serve their purpose and defiance as it stands is not all that intuitive or fun other than inner beast timing.