With all the negativity around war let's talk about the best part of 4.0!

[Tegernako]

Kinda like those who wanna ignore the Defiance half of their abilities and only tank in Deliverance. Crazy.

Find one person who never used both stances in HW.

The key phrase was "be in dps stance as much as possible." Nobody, not even people like Xenos ignored defiance, what they did was maximized the amount of time in deliverance and switched to Defiance when it made sense. People like us make usage of both stances. Your agruement is for staying in one stance, our argument is to utilize both to their maximum effect.

Also what you just said actually supports what I've said here and in other places. You need to make swapping to both stances viable so you can make the best usage of both. The current situation actually encourages people to stay only in one stance.

I don't see why you would lower your LB gain for this.

Because PLD/PLD offers a whole suite of other utility that allows them to be essentially completely self sufficient, which in turn allows healers to DPS more, especially since PLD/PLD can also dps and be self sufficient at the same time.

WAR has mitigation but it can't heal up the same way PLD/PLD can, because one PLD can heal the other so it doesn't hurt their dps rotation as much, they can cover/interven to save CD's, which both in turn help self sustain and keep healers and themselves doing damage.

WAR/WAR in HW didn't have the same level of utility/teamwork as PLD/PLD does. Seriously, try it out you basically never wipe unless DPS doesn't do their job.

I won't argue that this is a meta thing but it does exist and it's a really really easy way to get clears even if it's not quite as fast.