With all the negativity around war let's talk about the best part of 4.0!

[Thaelon]

This is what SE was trying to do they have successfully brought the floor up on WAR, staying in defiance is now plausible I might even say acceptable MTing. The problem IMO is that when trying to balance dance as MT, it's so difficult to not have a giant DPS loss when dancing that the effort put in to do so and get that timing down doesnt feel adequately rewarding.

[Tegernako]

This is what SE was trying to do they have successfully brought the floor up on WAR, staying in defiance is now plausible I might even say acceptable MTing. The problem IMO is that when trying to balance dance as MT, it's so difficult to not have a giant DPS loss when dancing that the effort put in to do so and get that timing down doesnt feel adequately rewarding.

Yes I don't have an issue with being in defiance for the most part, it's just that by designing that aspect you're literally ignoring half your job and your brand new level 70 ability.

It's very, very, bad design.

[Makeda]

Yes I don't have an issue with being in defiance for the most part, it's just that by designing that aspect you're literally ignoring half your job and your brand new level 70 ability.

It reminds me of old school WoW.
Go into Prot stance when tanking, and Zerk when soloing.

This seems to have been the goal. Bad design? No - just not what you're used to.