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  1. #221
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    Quote Originally Posted by Averax View Post
    I feel like they shattered any of the hopes the GEO had with the AST quests, actually. They seem to be intent on merging the two under ASTs banner.
    My apologies if someone else has already posted these, I have not read through the whole thread.
    Some screenshots I took as I did the Astro questline. Posting relevant ones that make me think Geomancer will definitely be the next healer.








    In the questline, it is said that Astrology and Geomancy are complementary to each other, and compatible, but as an astrologian you did not really gain much from geomancy aside from Earthly Star. And Kyokuho sought to integrate astrology's lessons in "true" geomancy, rather than becoming ONLY an astrologian.

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    Last edited by Hiveer; 07-11-2017 at 10:41 AM.

  2. #222
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    Lore taken from the same questline:
    -Kyokuho's grandfather was a master geomancer, but a lot of his techniques were lost when he died, as his pupil was not talented enough to be taught/learn them. Kyokuho learned geomancy from his grandfather's pupil.
    -Geomancy can heal, shield or attack by using the elements of water, wind and earth.
    -One final element is life itself, which is required to cast a barrier potent enough to permanently shield Kugane from Kinko's wrath. This element is life itself, meaning that it could only be spent through a sacrifice. The barrier cast by Kyo's grandpa lacked this sacrifice, and thus eventually started fading and breaking, prompting Kyo to travel in search of a solution that would mend it (found in Astrologian's aspected magic).

    -ATTACKS used by Kyokuho:
    Qi of Water: Healing spell
    Qi of Earth: Single target damage
    Qi of Air/Wind: ??? Did not catch what it did, but it was an attack.

    This is not much, but take it as speculation backed by some sidequests.
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    Last edited by Hiveer; 07-11-2017 at 11:02 AM.

  3. #223
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiveer View Post
    -prompting Kyo to travel in search of a solution that would mend it (found in Astrologian\\\\'s aspected magic).
    This is really amazing. Thank you for posting this. I\\\\'m really hoping Geomancer will be added next expansion. If I remember correctly, Qi of Air was also a single target damaging ability also. But again, they are most likely placeholders.

    It looks like Kyukuho is mostly trying to take principles and lessons from Astrologians in order to create the ultimate form of Geomancy.

    Things are looking good for Geomancer I think! Was hoping it would be a DPS, and still a chance it could be, but I\\\\'ll take it as a healer also
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  4. #224
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    Quote Originally Posted by Telvorei View Post
    The elemental wheel: Fire melts Ice, Ice compacts Wind, Wind erodes Earth, Earth grounds Thunder, Thunder shocks Water, Water douses Fire.

    Geo would probably only utilize Earth, Wind and Water due to how lore is shaping in XIV, but I could see a system in which it has some gauge for all 3 elements, and has to create a balance of them in order to execute specific moves
    The Wu Xing is Wood (unaspected damage), Fire, Earth, Metal (also unaspected) and then Water (water/ice damage). The goal would've been to follow this pattern with a number of options for each attribute.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hiveer View Post
    Posting relevant ones that make me think Geomancer will definitely be the next healer.
    The biggest problem for Geomancer as a healer is that as it's displayed in the Astrologian storyline, it's not really any different from the base class of Conjurer.

    Like this version of Geomancer, Conjurer relies on the elements of earth (stone spells), wind (aero spells) and water (cure spells). Conjurer also considers lifeforce as an element, but not one to be used as this would mean the caster sacrificing themselves. The "spirits" he refers to aren't that different from elementals mentioned in the Conjurer questline. Even all of those "attacks" used by Kyokuho were all Conjurer placeholders.
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    For the longest time, I had thought GEO would be the DPS offbranch of Conjurer, but after the balancing nightmare SMN/SCH became, that's out.


    Kyokuho using CNJ animations is a bit waffly since Thancred used the same generic Gladiator animations until Yugiri suddenly broke out her dual blade. Unless they plan for GEO to piggy-back off of CNJ for gear or something atleast, but it's very odd.

    Why name drop a classic Final Fantasy job like this? Why have their story tied so tightly with another established job, yet make it so clear they are still seperate schools of magic?

    Unless they plan to do something with it later, it would have made so much more sense to roll the job into Astrologian. I mean, IRL Geomancy is a form of divining just like tarot and astrology is. Leveva and you could be learning fancy new earth divination techniques from Kyokuho (Hydaelyn is it's own star, afterall) and this wouldn't even be a question.

    It's fishy.
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  6. #226
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ametrine View Post
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    We can't really say for certain of anything for now.


    However, one side of me thinks they may be a prelude to Job Advancements for a Job to advance to a Higher tier version of their current Job Role such as back in FF1 game where a a Black Mage can become a Black Wiazrd and Archer becoming Rangers. The Job's name changed but they become more power and access to better versions of their old skills with new skills as well.

    Astro may evolve into a GEO later and have their named changed to Geomancer.

    However, this is all just speculations for now.
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  7. #227
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    Quote Originally Posted by DubiousDisk View Post
    Give me Blue Mage DPS, uses skills based of monsters, but with a slight twist since you're not a monster, and cant use the skills to a full extent.

    Bad/Aqua Breathe AOE and all that jazz.
    We do NOT need another damned DPS.

    We literally just got two and the queue times are bad enough as it is.

    Just like Overwatch, no wonder no one wants to Heal and Tank, the roles are so stale.
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  8. #228
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    I'm still holding out for a Judge class using a red card and a yellow card as weapons. Would probably wind up being a healer.
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  9. #229
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    I would like to see Mystic or Chemist. Thinking on the FFT side of things.
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  10. #230
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    Going off the Geomancer, I admit I was assuming it wouldn't be but after watching the last scene it makes sence we may see Geomancer Job, at least I would welcome it. They did say they may think of adding a 3rd job once the tweaks are out of the way so who knows :3 (Though may not be Geo, may be something different entirely)
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