A tank's concern

[BloodRubyXII]

I mean when healers were literally getting dogged on for not dpsing before, it's no surprise now that they're trying it - at a point when it's not really ideal because tanks are getting hit harder in dungeons again especially on multi pack pulls.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

I mean when healers were literally getting dogged on for not dpsing before, it's no surprise now that they're trying it - at a point when it's not really ideal because tanks are getting hit harder in dungeons again especially on multi pack pulls.

Admittedly, the above reason is why I'm kiiinda quick to boot DPSing healers, especially when they're letting someone die. As in, one death = auto kick. I've seen enough of such "healers" to know how it's going to work out from that one wipe.

[Tremara]

Admittedly, the above reason is why I'm kiiinda quick to boot DPSing healers, especially when they're letting someone die. As in, one death = auto kick. I've seen enough of such "healers" to know how it's going to work out from that one wipe.

So it's always the fault of dpsing healer if someone dies ... because - you know - DPS don't tend to stay in sh*t?
I have a simple rule ... if a DPS can't be bothered to move out of AoE to minimize incoming dmg, I can't be bothered to heal them. As long as I see at least an effort I will heal, if not I will spam Holy/Stone and raise them afterwards.

PS: I didn't mention tanks because I seldom run with rnd tanks.

[KalinOrthos]

So it's always the fault of dpsing healer if someone dies ... because - you know - DPS don't tend to stay in sh*t?
I have a simple rule ... if a DPS can't be bothered to move out of AoE to minimize incoming dmg, I can't be bothered to heal them. As long as I see at least an effort I will heal, if not I will spam Holy/Stone and raise them afterwards.

PS: I didn't mention tanks because I seldom run with rnd tanks.

Sorry, but this mindset baffles me. It seems like you're holding the run ransom because people aren't playing up to your standards. There's a stark difference between encouraging people to play better and punishing them for missing mechanics. If I have to heal for you as a paladin because you'd rather spam Stone/Holy, there's something wrong with this picture.

[Tremara]

Sorry, but this mindset baffles me. It seems like you're holding the run ransom because people aren't playing up to your standards. There's a stark difference between encouraging people to play better and punishing them for missing mechanics. If I have to heal for you as a paladin because you'd rather spam Stone/Holy, there's something wrong with this picture.

No, I don't hold the run ransom. How could I? If someone thinks I fail to heal they can always initiate a vote kick but I was never kicked from a party so far. It's not like that it happens on a regular basis that ppl die while I'm healing.
Like I said as long as I see ppl at least trying to move I will always heal them but if they stay in the AoE constantly because they rely on the mindset that the healer will heal and save their ass, then no, I have to pass. It's like encouraging to fail core mechanics of the game.

[Tillen]

If I have to heal for you as a paladin because you'd rather spam Stone/Holy, there's something wrong with this picture.

This right here.

[Feidam]

This right here.

I agree with her there. I also agree that it is ok for a healer to be busy enough throwing heals that they do not dps. I just took you post to mean a tank sucking up all the heals where no one else can get one is aa good thing and still the healers fault if the group wipes. Which is what I took issue with. Sorry if I misunderstood.

[Tillen]

I agree with her there. I also agree that it is ok for a healer to be busy enough throwing heals that they do not dps. I just took you post to mean a tank sucking up all the heals where no one else can get one is aa good thing and still the healers fault if the group wipes. Which is what I took issue with. Sorry if I misunderstood.

Lol, all good. She said it better than me anyway, that was the long and convoluted point I was trying to make. No worries.

[Tridus]

Admittedly, the above reason is why I'm kiiinda quick to boot DPSing healers, especially when they're letting someone die. As in, one death = auto kick. I've seen enough of such "healers" to know how it's going to work out from that one wipe.

Players: "OMG stupid healers, why aren't you DPSing more? *kick*"
Also Players: "OMG stupid healers, why are you DPSing so much? *kick*"
Still Players: "How come more people aren't playing healers?"

[MoroMurasaki]

Players: "OMG stupid healers, why aren't you DPSing more? *kick*"
Also Players: "OMG stupid healers, why are you DPSing so much? *kick*"
Still Players: "How come more people aren't playing healers?"

I love this so much I'm putting it in my signature.