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    KalinOrthos's Avatar
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    Oh, I'm not saying we shouldn't play efficiently. Maximizing our DPS should definitely be a consideration as you gear, and if a tank can get away with using Slaying accessories, more power to them. I just resent the idea that I'm seeing, more and more, that using Vit accessories makes one a bad tank, when it really doesn't.
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    Nowaki Yoko
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    Quote Originally Posted by KalinOrthos View Post
    Oh, I'm not saying we shouldn't play efficiently. Maximizing our DPS should definitely be a consideration as you gear, and if a tank can get away with using Slaying accessories, more power to them. I just resent the idea that I'm seeing, more and more, that using Vit accessories makes one a bad tank, when it really doesn't.
    Im not complaining about anyone using Anything, im just saying using STR doesnt make a tank bad as the OP (and many other people) is stating, also i like to state that VIT is such a meaningless stat once you have enough, so the solution is not "use i270 for ever" but "SE please AT LEAST add str to Tanks accesories."

    This is like "healer should/shouldnt dps" all over again, saying that "the more Vit the better cuz healers will be less stressed" (wich is not entirely true since 90% of the time im going to precast my heals/have an isnta heal ready on a tank buster), witht that same logic healers should not dps, because the most MP they have to spare the better, right? i mean its safer to sit at 20kMp than sitting on 8k because i can crazy heal if i feel like.
    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    Nah, if I was only thinking about myself I'd go full slaying and yell "HEALERS ADJUST" into my microphone instead of being a team player and ensuring the content is cleared. Full STR is only for tanks that care less about surviving and more about their parses because "MUH DEEPS".
    As long as they survive enough for me to cast my heals, i dont mind finishing a dungeon faster.

    Once again, im not saying having VIT at all is bad, im saying over doing it is pointless (not bad)....
    Having Enough VIT with more Dmg = Killing things faster AND surviving everything (including tank busters) while using mitigation skills.
    Overdoing VIT= Surviving everything (including tank busters) while using mitigation skills.
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    Last edited by Nowakii; 07-09-2017 at 01:02 AM.

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    Sylvana Tenebri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nowakii View Post
    Snip.
    Who's talking about dungeons? I'm talking about going into Savage/Extremes with 33k or less HP because the meta says to shed all Vit, go pure STR, and yell "HEALERS ADJUST".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    Who's talking about dungeons? I'm talking about going into Savage/Extremes with 33k or less HP because the meta says to shed all Vit, go pure STR, and yell "HEALERS ADJUST".
    I don't want to be that guy but there's this website where people upload parses. If you go there and look at speed runs you can see that, not only can tanks tank the current ex primals in all slaying accessories, but their healers also do more than 3k dps combined.
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    Yorumi Eienyuki
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    Who's talking about dungeons? I'm talking about going into Savage/Extremes with 33k or less HP because the meta says to shed all Vit, go pure STR, and yell "HEALERS ADJUST".
    I mean I'm going to heal a tank when their hp is dropping or they take a buster. All that matters is they survive the hit. Whether a tank has 30k or 50k or 100k hp there is no adjustment I heal incoming damage. Vita doesn't giv mitigation so it doesn't really matter. Rarely do you ever see tank advice in any mmo saying just max out hp cause you can.
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