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    Quote Originally Posted by Yasuhiro View Post
    Someone really hating on FFV music? :c


    FFXIV isn't meant to be taken seriously, it's a game where a character shot himself up in the air to destroy dalamund (or however you spell it) a game where in the Japanese versions bosses shout their finishing moves like anime characters, the chocobo tales chocobo is cute and a nice throwback to an obscure game. You don't have to like it but FF has never really been srsbuziness
    So a questionably canon comic relief side quest and what i'm pretty sure is just a very common trope for japanese media.

    The game doesn't have to be 100% serious all the time but you can't blame people for not respecting this story

    (mild omega spoiler)

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    as much as they respected this one

    (FCoB spoiler)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roda View Post
    So a questionably canon comic relief side quest and what i'm pretty sure is just a very common trope for japanese media.

    The game doesn't have to be 100% serious all the time but you can't blame people for not respecting this story

    (mild omega spoiler)

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    as much as they respected this one

    (FCoB spoiler)

    While I get the point, you're literally comparing an entrance cutscene of the first raid tier of which we don't even know the conclusion for yet, with the ending cutscene of a last raid tier where all the pieces have fallen into place.

    I feel a lot of people here are just looking for something to nitpick about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaitoHikari View Post
    While I get the point, you're literally comparing an entrance cutscene of the first raid tier of which we don't even know the conclusion for yet, with the ending cutscene of a last raid tier where all the pieces have fallen into place.

    I feel a lot of people here are just looking for something to nitpick about.
    Also the emptiness is made to convey the blank canvas Omega is able to work with. We came into his world and from that very moment he was able to erase us if he so chose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaitoHikari View Post
    While I get the point, you're literally comparing an entrance cutscene of the first raid tier of which we don't even know the conclusion for yet, with the ending cutscene of a last raid tier where all the pieces have fallen into place.

    I feel a lot of people here are just looking for something to nitpick about.
    It is true that those cutscenes are in very different places in their narratives, but I think we're all able to guess how much investment we will be able to put on this raid's cast come its final arc, and compare it to the dramatic weight of the game's first raid. I for one can't predict an outcome where that sapient plush toy will even hold a candle to Alisae's very personal journey through the coils.

    I was really hoping for Nero and Cid's relationship to be at the forefront of the story and its development. Now I fear it's just going to be all about why this moe blob chicken is here and why everyone is taking it seriously.

    And I {scar} thought they {scar} couldn't get worse than {scar} Mide =.=
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roda View Post
    It is true that those cutscenes are in very different places in their narratives, but I think we're all able to guess how much investment we will be able to put on this raid's cast come its final arc, and compare it to the dramatic weight of the game's first raid. I for one can't predict an outcome where that sapient plush toy will even hold a candle to Alisae's very personal journey through the coils.

    I was really hoping for Nero and Cid's relationship to be at the forefront of the story and its development. Now I fear it's just going to be all about why this moe blob chicken is here and why everyone is taking it seriously.

    And I {scar} thought they {scar} couldn't get worse than {scar} Mide =.=
    I don't think anything will live up to Coil considering it was about the freaking dragon that already caused a freaking calamity, ended 1.x's story, and paved the way into 2.x's world. Alexander and Omega by comparison are new threats to the world and we need to put them down to prevent a new calamity.

    Nero and Cid are still getting good development, and will likely have even more of a focus as the raid continues. You can't exactly blame the Chocobo for taking much of the focus when it's a new character. I mean if you really want to talk about investment and quality of writing, I can just as easily say that it took WAY too long for Alisae to decide that she actually wanted to protect the world of her own volition instead of 'because she only wanted to understand her grandfather's motives', which is probably even worse when considering she was like that since the very start of the game. Which is to say, everything good about Coil was basically backloaded into the second half of the raid, and especially crammed into the last two fights. Plus Coil didn't have any new characters to introduce anyway.

    So many people seriously take writing, especially the establishment of a background and pacing, for granted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaitoHikari View Post
    I don't think anything will live up to Coil considering it was about the freaking dragon that already caused a freaking calamity, ended 1.x's story, and paved the way into 2.x's world. Alexander and Omega by comparison are new threats to the world and we need to put them down to prevent a new calamity.
    Nero and Cid are still getting good development, and will likely have even more of a focus as the raid continues. You can't exactly blame the Chocobo for taking much of the focus when it's a new character. I mean if you really want to talk about investment and quality of writing, I can just as easily say that it took WAY too long for Alisae to decide that she actually wanted to protect the world of her own volition instead of 'because she only wanted to understand her grandfather's motives', which is probably even worse when considering she was like that since the very start of the game. Which is to say, everything good about Coil was basically backloaded into the second half of the raid, and especially crammed into the last two fights. Plus Coil didn't have any new characters to introduce anyway.

    So many people seriously take writing, especially the establishment of a background and pacing, for granted.
    My entire problem with the plush thing is that it really didnt need to exist in that ridiculous form for the sake of this story. It just seems like pandering to some made up need for a cute character or some random ff ip reference quota, as if this raid hasn't hit it already. It's just throwing my immersion/suspension of disbelief right out the window when these characters that have earned my respect are now treating this thing like it's just some dude that doesn't speak the same language or like it's a really smart anthropomorphized cartoon dog that's basically a person, Instead of some horrifically malformed chocobo thing. They just accepted it wayyy too quickly.

    And if I understood things correctly, Shinryu was supposed to be comparable to bahamut, and this thing was designed to fight it, so I don't think Omega itself is lacking in the cool factor as compared to bahamut.
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