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  1. #131
    Player Alerith's Avatar
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    Alerith Rayneheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by irongripz View Post
    fixed that for you.
    Actually, the original quote was more accurate. Just because you choose not to involve with it doesn't make it useless or make it apply to only one person.

    Nice fail though.
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  2. #132
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    Seirra_Lanzce's Avatar
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    Kuro L'anzce
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    Quote Originally Posted by irongripz View Post
    fixed that for you.
    Wow, are you sure you're fixing his post? that hijacking his post. not fixing.
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  3. #133
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    :sigh: I really wish there was a delete thread button... I had to come back and see how immature people were getting and sadly I was right... Just like ignorant people to take things out of context and imply I mean something horrid like spying or chinese sweat shop blah blah... yea cause I totally meant that... morons... Really do I have to be so descriptive and use simple meanings to help you understand what I meant or did I read it wrong?

    I'll just start with this, I'm currently in school for Computer Animation and take pleasure in observing the masters make their masterpieces. I could sit for hours and watch someone draw concept art, build models, animate, even work on the games code or under the hood sort of speak. Now that I think about it and reread it for the 11th time that maybe this was only a good idea for myself. However, I see now one truly understood what I meant but instead of politely asking for clarification most of you people went over board with communist jokes and in some cases telling me I'm creepy or willing to violate someones privacy when clearly I did not.

    I get it no one cares how a game is made they just care about playing it and paying $13 to play a game is enough of a prize for a subscriber... I get it bad idea whoopy... Also people assume I hate the idea of having to pay a sub for this game right now... If I did then tell me why I've updated my billing info so they can have my money so I can keep playing?

    So here in big bold italicized letters I will explain so everyone can see and hopefully understand what I was thinking during the process of creating this post.

    As I poured over the schedule for 1.20 to v2.0 I drooled hard and muttered "Shit I'll pay the sub just to watch them fix the damn thing and not even play it." Why you ask? It's not everyday you get to publicly witness the rebirth of a game thats already been launched. I don't want to just play FFXIV I want to get my "front row seat tickets, sit at the side lines and cheer the team on all the while star struck and honored that I get to be apart of the development process witnessing it from ground zero." for those children who don't understand everything in the quotations or (") marks thats a metaphor look it up if you don't know what it means.


    I don't care how they do it I gave some suggestions but of course they were bad and I too am very happy for the live letters from the producers. I just simply want to say "I was watching when they made this dungeon, it was crazy at one point they did this but it didn't work, yoshi-p had like 3 packs of cigarettes and I've never seen a monster get designed in from concept to fully polished 3D model that fast before. It was fucking awesome, Oh and this one time I contributed to a forum post and we all watched them create that idea from us straight from our posts alone, at one point I think he referenced my reply!" just letting my imagination get away with me of course... I just want to be immersed in to the background stuff... but you guys don't really care about that stuff so eh whatever.

    The gaming industry has come a long way but it's community is turning in to trash. Seriously I think they need to consider a Gamer License to weed the ignorant "oh I'm gonna go buy madden NFL 2011, 12 and 13 and Call of duty 5, 6, 7 oh and I've played WoW for so many years I need a change hmm Rift and Star Wars: The old republic look nice. I don't think I'm gonna like Guild Wars 2 because it doesn't play like Guild Wars 1, oh lets not forget I bought street fighter 4 but now theres super SF4 and then SF vs tekken looks good I don't think I would have played it if it didn't play like SF4. I want exploitive game companies to recycle games and charge me full price for the same thing because I love their cold hard steel up my rectum... yea I'm talking about Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3... >.< a patch would have sophist I mean why did I buy a 120g Ps3 if no ones going to utilize the space... OH WAIT the company is greedy and the idiots feed them money so they keep doing it." Sorry about the rant totally off topic I've been working 12 hour work weeks I'm gone
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  4. #134
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    Issac's Avatar
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    Kytheren Kenni
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liniont View Post
    :sigh: I really wish there was a delete thread button... I had to come back and see how immature people were getting and sadly I was right... Just like ignorant people to take things out of context and imply I mean something horrid like spying or chinese sweat shop blah blah... yea cause I totally meant that... morons... Really do I have to be so descriptive and use simple meanings to help you understand what I meant or did I read it wrong?
    So apply for a damn internship. Don't ask them to have a 24/7 feed so that you and thousands of others can criticize every little thing they do.

    Occasional office videos on youtube I can see. But a live feed? You're calling me immature? Think below the surface. You might not take advantage of it, but do you really think the average person won't take something and run with it?

    I promise you, most developers like to lead private lives. If you're in school for CA and you also happen to not mind having your future tasks in progress and possibly your face plastered across the world for all subscribers to see, more power to you. Not to mention, as others have said, that this goes against many commonly used business practice.

    But let's look at the flip-side. If a service like that were ever made available, it would cost a hell of a lot more than 13-15/mo, I assure you.

    In summation, have some damn empathy for the dev's personal space needs. Think about it long enough and you might just realize who is truly being ignorant and immature. Check yourself.
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  5. #135
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    Lebannen's Avatar
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    We are getting story content unique to us playing pre version 2,0 which is all i realy want from SE. More story content.
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  6. #136
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrettyPrincess View Post
    Why do people keep saying FFIXV is "incomplete"? It is my understanding that no MMO is complete until it shuts downs.
    Wada said the game did not meet the level of quality people had come to expect from the Final Fantasy series. Yoshi-P said the game could not even be called an MMO without some features that are still missing, like a proper player search. Straight from the company president and from the game director, it has been said that this game still does not meet a certain standard. Until it meets that standard, it will be considered to be unfinished.

  7. #137
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    Mihana's Avatar
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    I'm completely against the whole idea of setting up cameras to watch them work. Now what'd be nice of course is more frequent updates on plans, maybe some concept art here and there, and definitely something like the Vana'diel Winds they had going on back then. I still don't however feel any of this is owed to us. But personally? I'd settle for more in-game lore being shown to us. And definitely more info on the races to come (and possible races they may add in the future.) when 2.0 is released. Look at it this way really, the more time they spend communicating with us via reports, camera feeds, and all this other stuff you're asking for, that's less time they're spending on getting 2.0 ready.

    Which would you prefer, getting FFXIV 2.0 on-time (or sooner) or later than what's scheduled? I think the answer would be obvious here.

    EDIT: I forgot to add that in my book, they've pretty much won my trust back. People seem to forget that the Square Enix we have now, and the one from a year ago are far different. The company has made leaps and bounds beyond anything they'd normally do. They've issued an apology for their folly on the game's release, they're communicating with us far more than they have in the last 8 or so years I can recall since I first started playing FFXI originally. One year ago if you asked the devs to consider this feature or that, they'd give you a generic "we'll think about it" response.

    Now, come November 3rd we'll see yet another LIVE broadcast from the producer himself, Yoshi-P. During this, he'll be looking at answering questions ON THE SPOT as they're asked. Try to get this type of customer service from the Square Enix a year ago. If you can't look at all the drastic changes they've made over the past year since everything happened then I don't know what else will convince you that they're worth putting trust in again. That's my two cents on the subject.
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    Last edited by Mihana; 11-02-2011 at 07:01 PM.


  8. #138
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    It doesn't matter if the game is finished or not, the question that ppl have to do @him/herself is "Am I getting enough fun for this?". If u get fun u'll stay, if not u'll stop playing.

    Any online game will be never "finished", cause the dev team will always make new things to keep players. For me FFXI was "finished", played a lot of time, but I stopped playing when it becomes bored for me.

    Btw, maybe the OP idea wasn't a good one (I'm against the video thing) but at least she got an idea, and no for think that isnt good i'll say that is garbage. Maybe the item reward will be better, something like Aion does, a reward for ppl but NO obligation of SE, but rather a gift for thank players or something.

    I know that my english is poor, so plz be good guys >.<
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    Think fast, Live slow

  9. #139
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    irongripz's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rowyne View Post
    Wada said the game did not meet the level of quality people had come to expect from the Final Fantasy series. Yoshi-P said the game could not even be called an MMO without some features that are still missing, like a proper player search. Straight from the company president and from the game director, it has been said that this game still does not meet a certain standard. Until it meets that standard, it will be considered to be unfinished.
    yep yep yep..more like MO not mmo
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    my house is in rebuilding stage. this house is very small and in unpopular area.
    the roof, floors, plumbing, and gas are all broke.
    my landlord fired the original crew. for not completing the job on time
    the new crew comes in and makes all kinds of promises, and shows me pics.
    now for next year i have to wait for them to finish the job.
    should I move to a more popular, bigger house rent it for same price?
    or stay in the part of my house that is not being rebuilt. but still pay same rent as others.

  10. #140
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alerith View Post
    Actually, the original quote was more OPINIONS. Just because you choose not to involve with it doesn't make it USEFULL or make it apply to EVERYONE

    I fail though.
    Fixed that for you.
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    my house is in rebuilding stage. this house is very small and in unpopular area.
    the roof, floors, plumbing, and gas are all broke.
    my landlord fired the original crew. for not completing the job on time
    the new crew comes in and makes all kinds of promises, and shows me pics.
    now for next year i have to wait for them to finish the job.
    should I move to a more popular, bigger house rent it for same price?
    or stay in the part of my house that is not being rebuilt. but still pay same rent as others.

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