Compensation for the early Sub fee

[Liniont]

Many of the players aren't happy with the announcement of the early subscription fee. I for one still find enjoyment in Eorzea and enough I think to pay for a subscription fee. I also love being apart of a game that’s slowly building to something great and seeing what was and what is now. Final Fantasy XIV has come so far thanks to Yoshi-p and his team. But this isn’t why I’m writing this post, I’m writing this post because unfortunately we will be getting charged full price monthly for an unfinished product.

So my suggestion is while we will be paying $12.99 or more a month for an unfinished product we the customer do not want to be kept in the dark any longer. For us subscribers we would like exclusives. During the PS2 release of FFXI there was a nifty little app on the community website called “Vana’diel Winds.” For those that don’t know what this app was or still is (I say was because it no longer works for me). This app connected potential new players and others to a live feed of a hidden camera flying throughout the world of Vana’diel, which showcased the game and the activities within.

I propose something similar but within the developer’s office, we would like to watch you all work on v2.0 almost like we watch sports on television or a reality TV show without the commentary or “drama” just work like you have been day by day and forget the camera’s are there. Set up live 24/7 webcam feeds behind key members of the developing team including over Yoshi-p’s desk and all meetings with adequate audio and video. We want to see the inner workings and provide our own play by plays and speculation. Also post on a blog all concept art and someone who will show us video footage of current in house builds and shows us what’s been changed and what bugs are there and where progress is on v2.0.

We can’t just rely on a promise from Square Enix anymore we are investing our money in to this project so like the concerned investor we want to see what’s going on. If the community agrees with this and would be willing to pay IF they implement this then please bring traffic to this post.

Of course after v2.0 is out you can stop the live feeds, but don’t forget we’ve stuck around and remember us a veterans so compensate us with something in game via items or exclusives? Maybe an open public test server and everyone who stays and pays from the beginning of the subscription fee up to release of v2.0 will be first pick when requesting beta patch testers. Also this would be how you determine who are veterans by who’s stayed within that period of time.

[Alerith]

I'm gonna be paying the sub to enjoy the game, but stuff like this bothers me.

If they give us an exclusive item or something BESIDES the content they are already making exclusive, cool, I'll take it, whatever.

But this sense of entitlement is pretty stupid. Seriously, if you don't feel it's worth it without something shiny being thrown at you, then just stop playing until 2.0.

[Liniont]

If they give us an exclusive item or something BESIDES the content they are already making exclusive, cool, I'll take it, whatever.
But this sense of entitlement is pretty stupid. Seriously, if you don't feel it's worth it without something shiny being thrown at you, then just stop playing until 2.0.

Sense of entitlement? Really so spending $75 and now an addition of the subscription fee before a complete product and we the customer have no right to be entitled for sticking by a product we believe in while others leave and let it die? Tell me something when you pay for a meal at a restaurant are you not entitled to a completely cooked and edible meal? When you purchase a tool from lowes or home depot are you not entitled the guaranty that it will be reliable and function properly? The fact of the matter is I put my hard earned money in to a game and feel entitled to what the product guaranties not a half finish product.

I digress I already said I'm staying for the long haul and I never said those items have to be game changing or ridiculous I would be happy with a title or something just so that people know we were the few who stuck by when no one else would because we believed in the work of the dev team.

Also the content they are creating for v2.0 I can argue should have been in the game at release not 2 or 3 years after the fact.

[Preypacer]

Sense of entitlement? Really so spending $75 and now an addition of the subscription fee before a complete product and we the customer have no right to be entitled for sticking by a product we believe in while others leave and let it die? Tell me something when you pay for a meal at a restaurant are you not entitled to a completely cooked and edible meal? When you purchase a tool from lowes or home depot are you not entitled the guaranty that it will be reliable and function properly? The fact of the matter is I put my hard earned money in to a game and feel entitled to what the product guaranties not a half finish product.

I digress I already said I'm staying for the long haul and I never said those items have to be game changing or ridiculous I would be happy with a title or something just so that people know we were the few who stuck by when no one else would because we believed in the work of the dev team.

Also the content they are creating for v2.0 I can argue should have been in the game at release not 2 or 3 years after the fact.

Well when you twist and distort the situation beyond all recognition as you have... I can see how you'd see it that way.

However, your version of the situation isn't reality.

First... It's not an "early subscription". In fact, subscriptions have been delayed. We weren't charged anything for the past 13 months since the game's launch, remember?

Next, it was announced almost a year ago that SE would start subscriptions when they met 2 criteria:
1) They had a clear and attainable roadmap for the game to go forward with. With the creation and announcement of the 2.0 roadmap, they have accomplished this.
2) The game had been developed and restored to a point where they felt it would be worthy as a standard launch title. With a couple key features Yoshi has pointed out (proper market/AH system and proper party-finding/search system), among other additions, that time will be the release of 1.20.

Looking at all the revisions made to the game, all the content in the game now (leves, storyline missions, side-quests, class quests, crafting, behest, grand companies, HNMs, NMs, multiple classes to level etc. etc.).. there is certainly quite a lot of content for a brand-new player just starting out to do.

Yoshi and SE have done exactly what they said they were going to do. They set the time-table and the requirements, and they stuck to them.

Now the ball's in our court.

If folks feel it's not worth a sub fee yet, then fine... they have the option to hold off and not pay anything 'til they feel it is. Just as would be the case with any other MMO.

You mention paying $75 for the game. So did I, twice. So did many people. We've all gotten over a year to play the game sub-free, add up the sub fees for about 5 months and you've got your $75's worth. If you chose not to play for all that time, that's not SE's problem. To come back now and claim "I didn't get my money's worth!" after 13+ months to play to your heart's content rings a bit hollow.

You run the same risk of not liking the game when you buy any title... Collector's Edition or otherwise. It doesn't entitle you to dictate to SE when they are allowed to charge you a sub. It entitles you to make the same decision everyone else who's bought the game has to make... to pay and continue playing, or to cancel and come back at a later date.

Beyond that.. your "Reality TV" suggestion is ridiculous. Sure, let's have a live feed into SE's offices, looking over their shoulders so competitors can get insight into what they're doing and lift some ideas for themselves.

Yeah... You clearly thought that idea through. -roll eyes-

[irongripz]

Also the content they are creating for v2.0 I can argue should have been in the game at release not 2 or 3 years after the fact.

also content being made between. my personal issue is the broken mechanics of the game. the slow sluggish clunky battle system.

[lynex]

Sense of entitlement? Really so spending $75 and now an addition of the subscription fee before a complete product and we the customer have no right to be entitled for sticking by a product we believe in while others leave and let it die? Tell me something when you pay for a meal at a restaurant are you not entitled to a completely cooked and edible meal? When you purchase a tool from lowes or home depot are you not entitled the guaranty that it will be reliable and function properly? The fact of the matter is I put my hard earned money in to a game and feel entitled to what the product guaranties not a half finish product.

I digress I already said I'm staying for the long haul and I never said those items have to be game changing or ridiculous I would be happy with a title or something just so that people know we were the few who stuck by when no one else would because we believed in the work of the dev team.

Also the content they are creating for v2.0 I can argue should have been in the game at release not 2 or 3 years after the fact.

If you feel the game isn't good enough to pay then stop playing. I don't understand why if you are having fun why you think you shouldn't pay full price.

[TheVedis]

If you feel the game isn't good enough to pay then stop playing. I don't understand why if you are having fun why you think you shouldn't pay full price.

because people want it to stay free

if given a choice between free and paying for something, people will always go with the free option

it isnt about quality, quanitity or anything else, its about personal greed and selfishness

hell even id rather go free then paid, but you know what, i live in reality and know these games are supposed to be paid games

[DantesAmore]

Tell me something when you pay for a meal at a restaurant are you not entitled to a completely cooked and edible meal?

the game is playable and MANY players are having fun ... this is the equal to a properly cooked meal. comment owned k thanks

not enjoying your food? (dont enjoy the game)
eat somewhere else... (go play lolWoW)

[irongripz]

the game is playable and MANY players are having fun ... this is the equal to a properly cooked meal. comment owned k thanks

not enjoying your food? (dont enjoy the game)
eat somewhere else... (go play lolWoW)

many starving african kids are happy with plain white rice. does not make it a full course meal.
don't enjoy your meal? complain about it.
you dont like my complaining? fix it or get over it. or quit coming back to the forums and go enjoy your rice.

[Aion]

I propose something similar but within the developer’s office, we would like to watch you all work on v2.0 almost like we watch sports on television or a reality TV show without the commentary or “drama” just work like you have been day by day and forget the camera’s are there. Set up live 24/7 webcam feeds behind key members of the developing team including over Yoshi-p’s desk and all meetings with adequate audio and video. We want to see the inner workings and provide our own play by plays and speculation. Also post on a blog all concept art and someone who will show us video footage of current in house builds and shows us what’s been changed and what bugs are there and where progress is on v2.0.

Thats rude