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    Quote Originally Posted by Liniont View Post
    [...] a hidden camera [...] which showcased the game and the activities within.

    I propose something similar but within the developer’s office, [...] just work like you have been day by day and forget the camera’s are there. Set up live 24/7 webcam feeds behind key members of the developing team including over Yoshi-p’s desk and all meetings with adequate audio and video.
    Dude, that's creepy o,o'
    And I'm sure it's violating many, many human rights, even ignoring the fact that it could hurt SE a lot to show other companies what they are working on..
    I wouldn't want this.
    A bit of information every few days/weeks, pictures and videos of 2.0 is more than enough.
    If people really want to be compensated - well, we get a whole exclusive story line, only for us!
    If that is still not enough, give them some nice items or something, but don't request creepy stuff like that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoli View Post
    Dude, that's creepy o,o'
    And I'm sure it's violating many, many human rights, even ignoring the fact that it could hurt SE a lot to show other companies what they are working on..
    Yeah I already brought this up, it actually violates certain laws within Japan above all. Though honestly, Square gave the most compensation that any company has with MMOs, they gave over a years worth of free playtime -- most companies sell off their MMO or shut the MMO down if it didn't meet expectations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennestia View Post
    Yeah I already brought this up, it actually violates certain laws within Japan above all. Though honestly, Square gave the most compensation that any company has with MMOs, they gave over a years worth of free playtime -- most companies sell off their MMO or shut the MMO down if it didn't meet expectations.
    Most of companies aren't releasing a 14th instalment in a game series that's several decades old that's also why Shutting down XIV straight is just... not possible. But I do agree that over a year of free playtime is already very nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antipika View Post
    Most of companies aren't releasing a 14th instalment in a game series that's several decades old that's also why Shutting down XIV straight is just... not possible. But I do agree that over a year of free playtime is already very nice.
    Not true. They could pull the plug at any time. Shareholders will not go unheard if CEOs and the like wish to keep their jobs. They probably won't because SE wants to recover from a very embarrassing launch and prove the fruits of their labor worth doing, but that doesn't mean it is impossible. It could still happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynn View Post
    Not true. They could pull the plug at any time. Shareholders will not go unheard if CEOs and the like wish to keep their jobs. They probably won't because SE wants to recover from a very embarrassing launch and prove the fruits of their labor worth doing, but that doesn't mean it is impossible. It could still happen.
    Off course if you take it this way, they could, just like Blizzard could close WoW tomorrow if they wanted to. That's not the point here, off course we all know that any company can shut down any product when they want. The fact that XIV is a part of the main FF series kinda forced SE to fight in order to try and improve the game. They aren't doing it just for the small XIV fanbase to be happy, but for their overall image, and for all non XIV players but fans of the FF franchise. SE just couldn't let a "numbered title" in the series just vanish like that. It would be a shame for SE and to the whole FF franchise. (we all heard Wada already)

    If XIV was made by a smaller company, wasn't a "14th" but a #1, I hardly doubt it would still be living as of now. The company wouldn't care. When you start a brand new project that's not a part of the series, if your whole concept fail, you just give up and move on to something else.

    if given a choice between free and paying for something, people will always go with the free option
    Not true at all, for most of people maybe, but not everyone. We have seen that a lot with artists releasing their work (could it be music, or books/comics) for free and leaving the consumer the choice to give a little something (sometime a lot), or just get the stuff for free.

    Surprisingly enough, lot of people are willing to pay if they enjoy the product they got. The same goes for donations when it comes to freeware, lot of users are will to help the authors.

    Off course that's far from being the majority, we all agree on that
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    Last edited by Antipika; 11-02-2011 at 02:38 AM.
    Antipika.
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    Touhou 13 - Ten Desires (all clear) : http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=PL194872B2BBA7CA67
    Touhou 12.5 - Double Spoiler (all clear) : http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=BD180E7054F3C1A2
    Touhou 9.5 - Shoot the Bullet (all clear) : http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=53B01AAE8A03BDD1
    Touhou 8 - Imperishable Night (all clear) : http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7A5C1FF6BDAD1C1B

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    .......No.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liniont View Post
    Compensation for the early Sub fee
    You mean for the late sub fee. You have had over a year free. Now its time to pony up. Its just that simple.

    If you feel the game isn't good enough to pay then stop playing.

    Everyone is just being cheap, and want to play for free. The last free your has them addicted to fre play. Then there are thoe who claim the game is broken, no fun, or not worth paying for. Anyone who says that is defining there own character. Anyone with a lick of sense would't waste there time with a brokern game, while having no fun, even for free.

    SO either play and pay, or don't pay, but remember, everyone hates a whiner, and everyone hates a crybaby, so stay or go..........just remember......stay or go are the only to options........not.........stay, or go, or stay and bitch or go and bitch.
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    Holy sense of entitlement, Batman.

    That said, I wouldn't mind if there were even more "notes from development", because I'm a sucker for the behind-the-scenes stuff.

    Then again, anything that'd take any energy away from them actually putting out a finished product on time? No thanks.
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    I like the idea of having an "Aerial Camera" flying around Eorzea, and showing us what players are doing!

    Maybe, players that are currently playing, and will keep playing and paying when 2.0 is released (or before), can get some exclusive item. They said that it will be several montures. Maybe we can get 1 exclusive Golden Chocobo, or something, or a set of armor, like the Onion set.

    Dunno. It would be nice If we get some reward to play an "unfinished" game, even when is not unfinished, but just don't have the quality that it may have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YUGON View Post
    I like the idea of having an "Aerial Camera" flying around Eorzea, and showing us what players are doing!

    Maybe, players that are currently playing, and will keep playing and paying when 2.0 is released (or before), can get some exclusive item. They said that it will be several montures. Maybe we can get 1 exclusive Golden Chocobo, or something, or a set of armor, like the Onion set.

    Dunno. It would be nice If we get some reward to play an "unfinished" game, even when is not unfinished, but just don't have the quality that it may have.

    we are getting rewarded

    what part of exclusive content thats being removed at 2.0 arent people understanding?

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