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  1. #11
    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Kosmos Meishou
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    Behemoth
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie_Pie View Post
    They are pulling even or MORE then a warrior, they also bring more then a warrior and lawl to drks, they aren't doing so well, they have been left in the dust.

    fflogs has them posted, the proof everyone.


    I don't see paladins lasting long like this.
    Why ever would that be? Warrior was pre-eminent for at least one whole expansion cycle.
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  2. #12
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    Thoro Heavypunch
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    Phoenix
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    Monk Lv 60
    Anyone who says with a straight face that they did a good job with tank balance when the PLD Tank with the most utility and one of the best migitation options also offers the best or at least competitive damage over Warrior, while Warrior has NO relevant utilities at all to speak of, should immediately check their innate logic facilities for regular maintenance.
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    Last edited by Thoro39; 06-30-2017 at 11:27 PM.

  3. #13
    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Kosmos Meishou
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    Behemoth
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Thoro39 View Post
    Anyone who says with a straight face that they did a good job with tank balance when the PLD Tank with the most utility and one of the best migitation options also offers the best or at least competitive damage over Warrior, while Warrior has NO relevant utilities at all to speak of, should immediately check their innate logic facilities for regular maintenance.
    My Paladin's innate logic faculty is still recovering from 3 and a half years of being universally recognized as the least good tank.
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  4. #14
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    Jonnycbad's Avatar
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    Seraphus Highwynn
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    Gilgamesh
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    Lancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kerwin View Post
    Nope. No need and working as intended. Though they could build shield oath gage faster.
    Try using Holy Spirit. It builds 20 Oath per cast while in Shield Oath only.
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  5. #15
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    Dizzy_Derp's Avatar
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    Dizzy Dash
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    Gilgamesh
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    Warrior Lv 70
    What warrior needs is substantially higher dps than the other two to make up to having no raid utility.
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  6. #16
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    Tankstuff's Avatar
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    Ship Md
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    Hyperion
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Dizzy_Derp View Post
    What warrior needs is substantially higher dps than the other two to make up to having no raid utility.
    This. If they want war to bring 0 utility to the raid, thats fine as long as its the tradeoff for doing the highest dps by a decent margin. Right now its maybe 100 dps disparity at best, but id gladly sacrifice that miniscule dps gain to bring all the utility of pld instead. Pld is in a good spot right now, the other tanks just need buffs.
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  7. #17
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    Niyuka's Avatar
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    Cierre Mhakaracca
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    Shiva
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    Pugilist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Dizzy_Derp View Post
    What warrior needs is substantially higher dps than the other two to make up to having no raid utility.
    DRK says hi and notifies you they bring even less.
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  8. #18
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    Tankstuff's Avatar
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    Ship Md
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    Hyperion
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Niyuka View Post
    DRK says hi and notifies you they bring even less.
    Dark at least has highest dps in tank stance and brings TBN, both great aspects for progression. I agree dark needs work too but theyre in a better spot than war atm
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  9. #19
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    Ragology's Avatar
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    Brown Sugar
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    Adamantoise
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    Monk Lv 62
    I'd rather they didn't nerf PLD. In fact I think it could still use a buff to how quickly the oath gauge fills in shield oath (since I heard its way too slow compared to sword oath.)

    WAR just needs to have its clunkiness removed. I'm fine with losing utility, but it sucks to lose the fun.
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  10. #20
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    Lindsey Fletcher
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    Zodiark
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    Paladin Lv 70
    I dont see how you can say PLD need a nerf... seriously, after how many years this game as been running and making the PLD the worst tank to play from start to end of HW you sit there and have the audacity to bitch about PLD being able to TANK properly because the special WAR class got brought down a peg or two.

    No if anything Total Eclipse needs changing to actually add the benefit of Enmity when using since it doesn't exactly scream out the same as a WAR using overpower.

    Had enough of the community when it comes to the crying, get over it
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