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    Dizzy_Derp's Avatar
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    Dizzy Dash
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    Gilgamesh
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    Warrior Lv 70
    What warrior needs is substantially higher dps than the other two to make up to having no raid utility.
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    Niyuka's Avatar
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    Cierre Mhakaracca
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    Shiva
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    Pugilist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Dizzy_Derp View Post
    What warrior needs is substantially higher dps than the other two to make up to having no raid utility.
    DRK says hi and notifies you they bring even less.
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    Ship Md
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    Hyperion
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Dizzy_Derp View Post
    What warrior needs is substantially higher dps than the other two to make up to having no raid utility.
    This. If they want war to bring 0 utility to the raid, thats fine as long as its the tradeoff for doing the highest dps by a decent margin. Right now its maybe 100 dps disparity at best, but id gladly sacrifice that miniscule dps gain to bring all the utility of pld instead. Pld is in a good spot right now, the other tanks just need buffs.
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    Ship Md
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    Hyperion
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Niyuka View Post
    DRK says hi and notifies you they bring even less.
    Dark at least has highest dps in tank stance and brings TBN, both great aspects for progression. I agree dark needs work too but theyre in a better spot than war atm
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    Brown Sugar
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    Adamantoise
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    Monk Lv 62
    I'd rather they didn't nerf PLD. In fact I think it could still use a buff to how quickly the oath gauge fills in shield oath (since I heard its way too slow compared to sword oath.)

    WAR just needs to have its clunkiness removed. I'm fine with losing utility, but it sucks to lose the fun.
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    Lindsey Fletcher
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    Zodiark
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    Paladin Lv 70
    I dont see how you can say PLD need a nerf... seriously, after how many years this game as been running and making the PLD the worst tank to play from start to end of HW you sit there and have the audacity to bitch about PLD being able to TANK properly because the special WAR class got brought down a peg or two.

    No if anything Total Eclipse needs changing to actually add the benefit of Enmity when using since it doesn't exactly scream out the same as a WAR using overpower.

    Had enough of the community when it comes to the crying, get over it
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    Felorr Bhakti
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    Gilgamesh
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    Marauder Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Tankstuff View Post
    This. If they want war to bring 0 utility to the raid, thats fine as long as its the tradeoff for doing the highest dps by a decent margin. Right now its maybe 100 dps disparity at best, but id gladly sacrifice that miniscule dps gain to bring all the utility of pld instead. Pld is in a good spot right now, the other tanks just need buffs.
    Maybe we'll see how they scale once we're out of our "baby's first 70 gear."
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    Ship Md
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    Hyperion
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Felorr View Post
    Maybe we'll see how they scale once we're out of our "baby's first 70 gear."
    ? base potencies of our skills arent going to magically change with better gear, damage between tanks will still be the same in comparison to how they are now
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    Felorr Bhakti
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    Gilgamesh
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    Marauder Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Tankstuff View Post
    ? base potencies of our skills arent going to magically change with better gear, damage between tanks will still be the same in comparison to how they are now
    Your base potency will not change correct. But even assuming SE never touches any of the tank's skills/potency, we may see a change in performance once we're in i380 gear in a year or two from now. Consider for example, how SMN only stands to gain from an increase in spell speed over the course of an expansion, more so than BLM has in the past. Over the course of the expansion, we may see a similar change in the way PLD benefits from skill speed in Sword Oath, or how WAR/DRK rotations will change from higher skill speed. I really doubt SE balanced the jobs in just the right way so that they all equally benefit exactly from the increase in various substats.
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    Aquis Onionslicer
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    Ragnarok
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Still going to main Pld even if they nerf it to the ground. This is final fantasy, not a simple mmrpg like other game. Don't follow the meta follow the fantasy....
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