Seperate the Grind from Item creation

[Dreamer]

No. Doing this would turn crafters into a second tier class. They're a primary class, and should be treated accordingly. Make the crafting process more fun and the grind isn't a problem.

[Celtodeno]

No. Doing this would turn crafters into a second tier class. They're a primary class, and should be treated accordingly. Make the crafting process more fun and the grind isn't a problem.

Please provide an example of a "fun" crafting system that still includes a Grind. My thesis is that any system that is Grind-focused will become boring and unrewarding no matter what. If you can provide an example of an antithesis to that I would be overjoyed and support you.

(also, it has already been indicated that crafting is now a "second tier" system)

[Aistaraina]

No. Doing this would turn crafters into a second tier class. They're a primary class, and should be treated accordingly. Make the crafting process more fun and the grind isn't a problem.

No, they are not primary classes. They never should have been and should not be treated as such, and in trying to fit crafting into everything is what caused problems from the start. Crafts are secondary things players can pick up, and with SOME time and effort, get to max level. They should NOT be your second full time, 40+ hr/week job. It's ridiculous in its current state.

[Wynn]

No, they are not primary classes. They never should have been and should not be treated as such, and in trying to fit crafting into everything is what caused problems from the start. Crafts are secondary things players can pick up, and with SOME time and effort, get to max level. They should NOT be your second full time, 40+ hr/week job. It's ridiculous in its current state.

Your opinion of what crafters should be is not fact. They ARE classes just like anything else in this game. Tough if you don't like it.

[Lavani]

No. Doing this would turn crafters into a second tier class. They're a primary class, and should be treated accordingly. Make the crafting process more fun and the grind isn't a problem.

Crafting should never be a primary class in any MMO.

[MTMT]

i think the mini game should be an option ( for people that like it , hq items etc ). If you were awarded exp after every succsessful motion of your tool , instead of after 5-15 that would also help alot ( as long as the overall exp was much higher than it is now ) im not sure about the whole offline deal, sounds abit too easy , but a change is needed IMO .

[Jinko]

No. Doing this would turn crafters into a second tier class. They're a primary class, and should be treated accordingly. Make the crafting process more fun and the grind isn't a problem.

Says you !

I don't think the idea of having crafters and gathers as main classes was a very good one, Yoshi-p probably feels the same way but is stuck between a rock and hard place through fear of alienating those players.

[grandm]

Says you !

I don't think the idea of having crafters and gathers as main classes was a very good one, Yoshi-p probably feels the same way but is stuck between a rock and hard place through fear of alienating those players.

with yoshi saying he has plans for DoH/DoL having dungeon content. plus expanding on what they do with free company housing. and saying he has had thoughts on gardeners growing greens for chocobo. it sounds to me he has given some thought to crafting. not something you would do if you didn't like classes, you don't know what yoshi feels about crafters anymore than anyone else in here does

[Lavani]

with yoshi saying he has plans for DoH/DoL having dungeon content. plus expanding on what they do with free company housing. and saying he has had thoughts on gardeners growing greens for chocobo. it sounds to me he has given some thought to crafting. not something you would do if you didn't like classes, you don't know what yoshi feels about crafters anymore than anyone else in here does

Oh boy, now we get to play The Sims in FF14.

[grandm]

Oh boy, now we get to play The Sims in FF14.

i didn't say it was a good thing. i am only pointing out that is wrong to assume yoshi dislikes crafting when he has plans for them in the future