WAR is Trash Tier Now

[bounddreamer]

Trash tier implies the job can't hold hate, can't do damage, and essentially can't function in its intended role, which is simply not true.

It's not a god-tier job but calling it trash tier is such typical forum hysteria.

[Venjenz]

Trash tier implies the job can't hold hate, can't do damage, and essentially can't function in its intended role, which is simply not true.

It's not a god-tier job but calling it trash tier is such typical forum hysteria.

This.

All that changed is WAR are no longer #1 OP tank. PLD are now. But WAR are still perfectly viable for tanking. There is no way there is any content in SB that the devs intentionally designed such that only PLD can possibly tank the encounter successfully. No way.

And they will get tweaked an adjusted in some upcoming patch, so I agree this is just a bunch of forum hysteria.

[CaptnYesterday]

Trash tier implies the job can't hold hate, can't do damage, and essentially can't function in its intended role, which is simply not true...

Ok, so that's how you define "Trash Tier". The community will define it differently. TLDR: It's not impossible, but that alone does not rescue WAR from being trash.

Lack of sustain requires more Storm's Path and Inner Beast and less enmity and DPS. Keeping aggro itself is harder with Warrior (depending on the pull you waste GCDs putting you behind in DPS and/or sustain based mitigation). No 360 AOE enmity generator forces directional reliance on overpower, interrupting combos and requiring more movement to capture mobs in the cone. Even when it works out and the above are managed (and overpower is not needed), you still take more damage than DRK/PLD. Damage requires more heals that could be better used on the group and, in the end, my healers prefer me to play my PLD.

[bounddreamer]

Ok, so that's how you define "Trash Tier". The community will define it differently. TLDR: It's not impossible, but that alone does not rescue WAR from being trash.

Lack of sustain requires more Storm's Path and Inner Beast and less enmity and DPS. Keeping aggro itself is harder with Warrior (depending on the pull you waste GCDs putting you behind in DPS and/or sustain based mitigation). No 360 AOE enmity generator...

That was where I stopped paying attention to you. What do you think steel cyclone is?

Throwing around reactive terms like trash tier exaggerates the discourse. Competent tanks and good warriors can still play the job well, and I know I'm not alone in that. Complaints about lack of added utility aside, it's still both a good main tank and off tank. Are there things that could be improved? Absolutely. Is my raid team demanding I switch to DRK? No. Am I going to bring it into Omega? That depends. I'll certainly get it ready as a backup plan, but we've had zero issues clearing and farming the content available so far.

Give Square feedback on job improvements by all means, but this kind of inflammatory rhetoric drags down the whole argument and leads to people kicking or excluding good tanks for no reason.

[CaptnYesterday]

That was where I stopped paying attention to you. What do you think steel cyclone is?
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(Followed by autistic screeching and virtue signaling rants about how we all just need to WAR better "like me"

I think I paraphrased pretty well . Yeah, obviously steel cyclone. That should be obvious in any case. My point is still valid and the community agreed. Sorry for your feelings.