DPS why don't you know your rotations?

[FaileExperiment]

I didn't mean to hijack this thread, but fast enough is a gut feeling. For example, I ran a leveling dungeon over the weekend and the tank kept saying how glad he was he had gotten a good group. We all knew the fights, the boss mechanics, and were moving through trash at a pretty good clip. You could tell the group was solid.

That's exactly my point. It's a gut feeling for everyone, and everyone has a different gut. You can't really quantify it, so using at as a measure of anything is not very helpful to those who actually need that help. Like I said, some people may feel that a dungeon where you win, regardless of time or wipes or what have you, was a great run. Others feel that if you weren't at least 95% efficient, you wasted their time. The point is the game needs to provide solid indicators of performance, feedback to the player that they can actually use to say hey yeah, I'm doing as good as SE expects that I should in that dungeon, or no, I need to work on my DPS and here's how.

[Gunspec]

Wait until you have all of your skills before practicing your full rotation. Otherwise it's harder.

No excuses for the WEAK! You must train you body for level 70 rotations from the MOMENT YOU LOAD THE CHARACTER CREATION MENUUUUUUUU!!!!

[HyoMinPark]

Snips

I pull around the same, but I also know there's probably a more optimal rotation for BRD out there somewhere. It also stands to reason people have varying rates at which they learn, so while some may only only need an hour or learn a rotation, or can just learn it on the fly (that's kind of what I did with 4.0 BRD so far), others need longer to adjust. There are still aspects of new BRD in adjusting to, so I never claim to know everything there is to know about my job this early in the expansion lol. I'm sure there will be a lot of changes to all jobs throughout Stormblood just like in ARR and HW.

[akaneakki]

I'm sure there will be a lot of changes to all jobs throughout Stormblood just like in ARR and HW.

Mostlikely will yes. I agree on what you are saying, but I seriously can't grasp it when people on this forum claims they don't need any tool to get good. You don't really need to if you know how it all floats, however it helps. I just can't understand why some people say they can figure it out on their own, but in reality they wait for some guy to fix it for them so then can learn the rotation.

[CrystalRainbow]

Jump potion
Nothing else to say.

[Selova]

You have 90 minutes for a dungeon. So if you cant make it in this time, you fail. Everything else is success, just to varying degrees of exceptionalism. We are all pretty exceptional, anyway. Also, the game does not require me to play a good rotation to clear all content. Why would I ? Maybe I dont want to be stressed out, playing correctly and without creativity and fun so we clear 2 minutes quicker? Sometimes I am already so bored from the hour-long DPS queue, I started a movie and some good scenes come up, so I might prefer paying attention to that, because you know, its MY leisure time to spend as I want?

Healers dont DPS, tanks dont DPS, so why should DPS perform to the maximum of their abilities? We ll get through the dungeon, no worries, stop annoying me.

If playing your class to it's maximum potential stresses you out, I think you have bigger problems. I can't understand the mind-set of wanting to play sub-optimally because it somehow causes you distress. Also, If your attention is focused on something else when you signed up to do group oriented content and you are not contributing as much as you could be, then you need to either leave or be removed and replaced with someone who wants to be there and contribute to the group. It stops becoming only YOUR leisure time the moment you join group content. Sorry but the groups leisure time is greater than your own, If that is your attitude then you need to stay out of group content.

[Parisstilton]

Well I don't know about everyone else but after working for 10 hours. Then queuing for 2-3 hours to get on the server. Then queuing for another hour + to get into chosen dungeon. By which time it's past my bedtime so I'm not usually at my best. But there is nothing I can do about that at the moment so if you meet me in a dungeon sorry but you'll just have to deal with it.

[Genoreaper]

Yet another reason a self view parser would help.

[NewSinz]

I can say the same thing about Tanks. All their Defensive cooldowns up at once then get tanked and blame the healer when they die because 1 they lost aggro 2 they died. DPS the only issue I have with DPS is when they fail to get out of AoEs ffs... big red circle means get out not just stand there and take the hit.

[Moxas]

You're delusional if you think playing a DPS is all about Rotations, It's more about using the most priority skills, and they're not always in the same order.

Gonna use Aoelion Edge

Crap, The primal just went invincible for some time.

Shadow Fang just faded from the boss while it was invincible, i need that to buff all my attacks by 10% Do i follow my "rotation" or apply the 10% debuff?


Time to use my level 70 utlimate ability which requires me to stand still for a few seconds

Hmmm... my Ninjatsu is few seconds off CD, if i wait i can reset it by using Ten-Chi-Jin or follow my rotation blindly and waste a free Ninjatsu? wait, i can't use it anyway, THERE'S AOE ON THE GROUND! do i stand still and use it anyway and get hit so i can follow my "rotation"?

And i can keep going on forever, it's different for every single fight.

Unless you mean something else by "rotation" enlighten me.