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    Niroken's Avatar
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    Nanaki Naki
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    Famfrit
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Shakugan View Post
    I disagree with Divine Benison being trash and needing Stoneskin again. It's instant so no long cast time. Always know you can go Cure II > DB without a second thought.
    If you are having to Cure II to use Benison you just gave it a cast time.
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    Shakugan's Avatar
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    Jyousei Shinkou
    World
    Siren
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    Originally WHM had 18% stoneskin. 10% was the nerf version. Anyways, Benison looks decent on paper: oGCD, instant barrier, and 15% is not bad for that.

    But then you add RNG gating... ...you can force it with cure II, but then you spend a GCD with cast time, probably overhealing, and suddenly it's not looking so great...
    This can be true for casual dungeons more or less but when we're talking about end-game hardcore content, like the extreme primals for the moment, it starts to have a lot more uptime with more common use of Cure in them. I would say the same for raids.

    Quote Originally Posted by Niroken View Post
    If you are having to Cure II to use Benison you just gave it a cast time.
    Considering that's not the only way to get Lillies. Sure, it is the only sure way every time, but see above.
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Ultros
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Shakugan View Post
    but when we're talking about end-game hardcore content, like the extreme primals for the moment, it starts to have a lot more uptime with more common use of Cure in them. I would say the same for raids.
    The problem is still though... it's not reliable. It might be up for those tank busters. It might not be. It probably won't be if you just got out of an AoE burst phase. (Unless you only use medica/C3... but that goes back to the argument about playing suboptimally to cater to lilies).
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    Shaartis Laggal
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    Louisoix
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Shakugan View Post
    This can be true for casual dungeons more or less but when we're talking about end-game hardcore content, like the extreme primals for the moment, it starts to have a lot more uptime with more common use of Cure in them. I would say the same for raids.



    Considering that's not the only way to get Lillies. Sure, it is the only sure way every time, but see above.
    Having to cast Cure or Cure II is the only way to get lilies... And even then, it's true that you will get more lilies in that type of content, but you will probably spend them in something that you didn't want to since basically you don't have control on which abilities you spend lilies.
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