Thread: Consolidated White Mage 4.0 Feedback Thread

Originally Posted by Erakir

As for Benison, I too am treating it like a free-ish tank heal every 30s or so. I've found it rather clunky to use when I'm actively trying to have a shield ready. It feels pretty weak right now and seems to disintegrate faster than stoneskin did....but that's probably just gear and leveling dungeons messing with my perception compared to running Exs at 60. Just having to train myself to remember to hit it at the moment.

The players in my Discord that are leveling tanks have noted that Defense ratings seem to get much higher than they have been in the past. I think the i273 tank body is +40 Def/MDef higher than the i270 body. If that trend remains true for the rest of SB there will be some pretty big defense gaps between a low ilvl and high ilvl tank and thus will need a lot more work to keep up with than before. Even the MCH I'm with mentioned a +30 Def increase going from i270 to i273.

I'd keep an eye on that for your own gear as well as you level and just see if your gear pieces take large leaps like that too as you get higher and higher.

Im not 70 right now, but I already got my opinions on White Mage, so here is my personal feedback on White Mage.

Lilies

For me, Lilies only have one use and it's giving someone a shield. The recast reduction on Assize and other skills are quite meaningless, as all lilies will be removed when using one of those skills. I rarely have 3 Lilies to benefit from the recast buff at all.

1. Assize, Asylum, Tetragrammation and Divine Bension will consume 1 Lily, so those skills can be used more frequently. Right now I don't have any use of the reduced cast time.

2. Lilies will also affect how fast Benediction can be used again, but the use of Benediction will consume all Lilies.

Divine Bension

To make use of Lilies I would prefer scaling the shield based on the current stacked Lilies. So one of the following would help a lot

1. Increase the duration based on Lilies, e. g. 1 Lily: 15 seconds / 2 Lilies 30 seconds / 3 Lilies 45 seconds.

2. Increase the strength based on Lilies, e. g. 1 Lily: 10 % of HP / 2 Lilies: 20% of HP / 3 Lilies: 30% of HP

This way, bringing a White Mage to a Raid Group means higher single target damage mitigation and less stress on healers. Personally, I prefer method 2.

Plenary Indulgence

Plenary Indulgence is too random in my opinion. It might be an instant cast with a recast time of just 15 seconds, but with all the stuff it requires to be efficient it's just too random. We need to cure or cure II people to give them confession stacks and they need to be below 100% of their health to actually get it in the first place. If they don't get hit for another 30 seconds, they lose their stacks, because we can’t give them new stacks, so they won't get any healing from Plenary Undulgence at all. The only nice thing about Plenary Indulgence is the range and the recast time, and that the main tank is kinda ensured to get a free massive heal. But in the end Plenary Indulgence result in overhealing and underhealing at the same time.

To adress that I would want Plenary Indulgence to become something like that:


1. Add a healing potency for zero confession stacks. This will heal the whole group everytime and will help handling Mana. Like a potency of 200.


2. To make Plenary Indulgence relevant I would increase the recast time to 30 seconds and remove the duration of confession stacks entirely.


3. Add an AOE shield to Plenary Indulgence, when it is used with Three Lilies. This way we have to actually manage our Lilies which isn’t the case right now.


4. Change Secret of the Lily to "Grants a 20% chance that Assize and Asylum recast time is reduced by 5 seconds upon healing HP with cure or cure II" OR "Assize and Asylum recast time is reduced by 5 seconds upon critical healing HP with cure or cure II" - the Trait is random based on random, so we don’t really benefit from it.

Originally Posted by Ghishlain

I'd just like Confession stacks to proc off Regen ticks and casts. That way the level 70 ability synergies with the HoT kit of WHM and augments their passive healing ability.

I would like to try PI in a Savage Raid / EX Trial before I give final judgement on it but it does suffer the same flaws as Lilies. I don't even imagine a WHM getting more than 2-3 procs in a single 4-man dungeon with the ability.

That would definitely make more sense, and would distinguish them from lillies. Right now they all proc from the same thing, only at different rates.

Divine Benison has become somewhat useful in 70 DR EX. Plenary is still crazy awkward at best. Most of my lilies go to Assize.