Rate the new PvP system from 1 to 10

[Jaibamon]

9/10 I like it.

Managing my hotbars was always a mess, and before 4.0 I had to make macros to change the skills on my hotbar. It was a mess. The new hotbar solves this.

I mostly have played WHM and BRD, and I welcome the changes. It incentives you to spam less and be more strategic.

Balanced must be made, patches will be released. Nothing is set in stone but the new pvp core rules are great.

[Elfidan]

1/10
I didn't think they could make tanks worse in pvp. I openly admit to being wrong.

[SolidN7]

2/10 horrible, I don't give it 0 because of the exp, only the noobs and casuals like this garbage.

[silverlunarfox]

I used to play PvP quite a bit before 4.0 changes. I would rate this a 9/10. While I don't like being limited, the play experience itself is WAY more fun. It also closed the skill gap so even less experienced players can do well (WHICH IS A GOOD THING), so now you can drag all your PvP newbie friends into it again and show them a whole new world! I may be doing that this weekend with my FC....I will make them PvP if its the last thing I do....

[silverlunarfox]

1/10
I didn't think they could make tanks worse in pvp. I openly admit to being wrong.

PFFFFT warrior is what I've been playing aside from samurai. Nothing is more satisfying then pulling some poor soul into your party and watch them get obliterated.

[Elfidan]

PFFFFT warrior is what I've been playing aside from samurai. Nothing is more satisfying then pulling some poor soul into your party and watch them get obliterated.

must be nice...

[Koltik]

must be nice...

DRK and PLD are way stronger now than they were before. If you don't see it that way then you are playing it wrong.

PLD cover has virtually no cooldown, they have amazing stuns, silence with a high range, and of course clemency.

DRK unmend is amazing, Blackest Night's damage absorb is amazing, damage is crazy high (have seen 200k+ in Feast 4v4), stun, silence, 10% damage up. They are in an amazing place.

WAR is the weakest by far at the moment. Virtually no utility, just pure damage, and their damage cap is lower than DRK (highest I've seen is 175k vs the 200k+ of DRK).

[Elfidan]

DRK and PLD are way stronger now than they were before. If you don't see it that way then you are playing it wrong.

PLD cover has virtually no cooldown, they have amazing stuns, silence with a high range, and of course clemency.

DRK unmend is amazing, Blackest Night's damage absorb is amazing, damage is crazy high (have seen 200k+ in Feast 4v4), stun, silence, 10% damage up. They are in an amazing place.

WAR is the weakest by far at the moment. Virtually no utility, just pure damage, and their damage cap is lower than DRK (highest I've seen is 175k vs the 200k+ of DRK).

You might be talking about 4v4 in matches you just die quicker now.

[Sunako]

DRK and PLD are way stronger now than they were before. If you don't see it that way then you are playing it wrong.

PLD cover has virtually no cooldown, they have amazing stuns, silence with a high range, and of course clemency.

DRK unmend is amazing, Blackest Night's damage absorb is amazing, damage is crazy high (have seen 200k+ in Feast 4v4), stun, silence, 10% damage up. They are in an amazing place.

WAR is the weakest by far at the moment. Virtually no utility, just pure damage, and their damage cap is lower than DRK (highest I've seen is 175k vs the 200k+ of DRK).

I would disagree that warrior not having utility. They can keep 10% damage buff whole time on target with their basic combo. Holm is even more deadly than before because you need choose from additional skill do you wanna take purify or not. Holmgang have 10 y range now so it is even easier pull healer behind wall now or you can pull dps behind wall and burst it down so healer can not heal through wall. Warrior have 50% ranged heavy skill too with 5 second cooldown ogcd that help lot kiting against melee classes or keeping your target stand still. Another thing warrior have is charge knock back ability that is useful interrupting healers healing cast skills.

[Koltik]

I would disagree that warrior not having utility. They can keep 10% damage buff whole time on target with their basic combo. Holm is even more deadly than before because you need choose from additional skill do you wanna take purify or not. Holmgang have 10 y range now so it is even easier pull healer behind wall now or you can pull dps behind wall and burst it down so healer can not heal through wall. Warrior have 50% ranged heavy skill too with 5 second cooldown ogcd that help lot kiting against melee classes or keeping your target stand still. Another thing warrior have is charge knock back ability that is useful interrupting healers healing cast skills.

That's good and all, but the 60s cd on Holmgang makes it not even comparable to PLD and DRK stun / silence spam every 10 seconds.

PLD reduces healing and damage done by 10%, which is essentially the same thing as warrior's debuff. Warrior debuff does come out ahead since the debuff doesn't affect OGCD's such as Lustrate, and Dignity, but it is still strong otherwise.

DRK reduces healing by 20% on their target, which is even stronger than the warrior's debuff. Even more, DRK can pull a healer behind a wall too, every 8 seconds, then stun then. Add silence to that and it's better than HG.

PLD and DRK can both completely stop a DPS with their stuns, also on a 5s CD, which is infinitely better than a heavy.

WAR knockback is negligible when the healer can free-cast otherwise due to the lack of any real CC. It just means they need 1 OGCD for that knock back which eats their beast gauge and thus means less damage / pressure in the long run.