Rate the new PvP system from 1 to 10

[Eskuire]

2/10

Played ~50-80 games since 4.0 released The new traits are stupid.
It's too watered down for me. I can understand revamping the battle system for PvE but for Player vs Player, as in Human vs Human, shouldn't reaction time and real skill take precedence over HERE HIT 3 BUTTONS FOR THE NEXT 14 MINUTES. I'm not even enjoying myself in the mode anymore, but I play it anyway cause "Dat DPS 55 minute queue"

There's no diversity anymore and what got changed is horrifically unbalanced. Unmend on DK? Did anyone look at that? Removing sprint forcing everyone except Samurai (that shoulder dash) to use Jolt? Gee thanks for forcing me to "choose" 2 skills from that pool. Adding 2 new DPS classes and giving EXP bonus in FL? I wonder what that's gonna do to all my lovely healers who I play with (One love, Greenbook) it couldn't possibly just logjam every game with 72 DPS/Tanks could it? Oh--ooo-hhhh

[MajisTek]

10/10 Killing on Ninja is like cutting cheese with a lightsaber. Skilled players have to play around timing, the weaker players don't have to think too hard about what buttons to press. It's bringing everyone towards the middle line. I'm sure people loved running in with all their buffs and cool downs to blow and sure I miss having access to all my move sets, but I think SE made the right move. Especially since it's a casual mmo, and ya know... casual pvp right?

[Tussin]

i like how more has been put into abilities for kills. not limit breaks. i have wayyyyyyyyyy more fun. its great

[Nathanx42]

2/10
I don't like how streamlined it is. I feel as if SE is trying to lower the skill ceiling. You could have solo queue players murderizing 2-3+ people at once if they knew what they were doing. Well-coordinated groups were able to pound entire matches, and good teamwork could carry a group no matter how hard RNG screwed them.

Now, it's all about burst and quick assist targeting, since anyone you target it with is never going to be able to escape from it.

The XP/time bonus you give encourages leechers, when people should be participating for marks, really.

[Mirch]

I think they did wrong to reduce the gap between players skills, it was way better before to have the skill levels separated, you could distinguish who belongs to what level of skill, we could still do it now but these changes hurt more those that stay in the middle level of skills like me, those that are not total crap nor total proproprogodlike.

The simplification of the skills are boring, before the matches were really dynamic, not talking about frontline because it is just a big royal rumble show, i'm talking about the feast, it allowed us to make really complex plays.
EXP in pvp no comment, the afkers doubled, 8v8 is like 8 dps vs 8 dps, those that kill faster win (it actually is fun tho). 4v4 rarely pops during preseason.

[Coldbrand]

1. Why would you remove stealth from NIN in PvP? Was the last opportunity for real sneaking instead of being a mudra reset/vuln setup. Also it's a cell phone game now.

[poffo]

Every time a mmo game cancles stealth in pvp 10000000 angles gets wings

[Coldbrand]

Good for the angles but WoW PvP without Rogue would be trash.

[Sunako]

1. Why would you remove stealth from NIN in PvP? Was the last opportunity for real sneaking instead of being a mudra reset/vuln setup. Also it's a cell phone game now.

Well they wanted put same amount buttons for every class in pvp and stealth is pretty useless skill in feast after all. It can be nice in frontlines but it would burn one keybind. I dislike that they removed summoners egi from pvp as well, but it would be impossible control pet with 9 job skills. I think main reason for that limited amount keybinds is ps4 and pad users. Ppl have constantly cried how they do not have the space with controller.

[silentwindfr]

for melee dps i will say 1/10 (if that was possible i will have said 0) simply because we have no way to keep attacking a ranged, ranged have a lot of tool for save themself and keep the range, but melee have almost no tool for get close and do anything to them.
worst, the difference of hp... a melee have 12k hp a ranged have 10k.... the ranged have clearly far too much hp... if they leave the skill and balance like it is the ranged need to be pummel down to 8k.

soo far, if you want to do pvp with a melee dps...don't do it!