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    Quote Originally Posted by Tide View Post
    Corps a corps and displacement are both off gcd abilities. So shouldnt be using up gcd time.
    I'm talking about travel time. Takes about 1 sec to pull yourself towards the enemy and another second to jump away. Almost a full 2.5 GCD.

    I'm pretty sure it's more optimal to not use those abilities and just stay in melee range the entire fight. You get bonus auto attack damage and you won't waste time jumping towards/away the enemy repeatedly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    I'm talking about travel time. Takes about 1 sec to pull yourself towards the enemy and another second to jump away. Almost a full 2.5 GCD.

    I'm pretty sure it's more optimal to not use those abilities and just stay in melee range the entire fight. You get bonus auto attack damage and you won't waste time jumping towards/away the enemy repeatedly.
    Except that (less than) one second travel time is easy to weave between GCDs. You dualcast a spell to get to 80/80 mana, use Corps-a-corps while waiting for the GCD go come back, execute the weaponsklills, weave in Displacement after using Redoublement, cast Verholy or Verflare. No time wasted.
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    Tide Coldwater
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    I'm talking about travel time. Takes about 1 sec to pull yourself towards the enemy and another second to jump away. Almost a full 2.5 GCD.

    I'm pretty sure it's more optimal to not use those abilities and just stay in melee range the entire fight. You get bonus auto attack damage and you won't waste time jumping towards/away the enemy repeatedly.
    The jump is very fast, has a potency for damage so its a loss to not use it. Its ogcd pretty much a full 2.5s window to make the jumps and also dont give auto attacks credit. 56 damage when your soells hit for 8k is negligible even over a full fight, and to imply that auto attcks would make up more damage than corps a corps and displacement over the course of a fight is absolutely incorrect.
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    Xehmnus Rayne
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    I'm talking about travel time. Takes about 1 sec to pull yourself towards the enemy and another second to jump away. Almost a full 2.5 GCD.

    I'm pretty sure it's more optimal to not use those abilities and just stay in melee range the entire fight. You get bonus auto attack damage and you won't waste time jumping towards/away the enemy repeatedly.
    Correct me if I'm wrong here, but don't auto attacks cancel the dual cast proc? I believe that's what I've heard anyway. In such a case, staying in melee range would hurt a lot more than worrying about dashing in/out which... shouldn't be really tampering with your damage anyway since they're simple enough to weave in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xehmnus View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong here, but don't auto attacks cancel the dual cast proc? I believe that's what I've heard anyway. In such a case, staying in melee range would hurt a lot more than worrying about dashing in/out which... shouldn't be really tampering with your damage anyway since they're simple enough to weave in.
    I believe the auto attack canceling it is a mis-translation. That said, I don't think RDM auto attacks add anything meaningful to their DPS as they scale off of strength (I'm surprised they didn't go with Dex) and hit like a wet paper towel.
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    Clouse Sydonis
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    Quote Originally Posted by WaywardPilgrim View Post
    I believe the auto attack canceling it is a mis-translation. That said, I don't think RDM auto attacks add anything meaningful to their DPS as they scale off of strength (I'm surprised they didn't go with Dex) and hit like a wet paper towel.
    Yes, an auto attack will remove your dual cast proc. It is an actual game mechanic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remnance View Post
    Yes, an auto attack will remove your dual cast proc. It is an actual game mechanic.
    Except in game, it does not cancel it. Using a weapon skill or sprint are what normally cancels it.
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