The boring mage of red

[Hyrist]

I've tested to the contrary, maintained Dualcast past melee on a level 50 dummy, full duration of Dualcast on auto attacks, zero cancellations.

Dualcast cancels on use of a physical weapon skill, such as Riposte. Not during Auto Attacks. The tooltip is incorrect on this matter.

[Psycofang]

Tested it again looks like i was wrong and only weapon skills do it.

Apologies.

[Azuta]

I really like red mage right now, I find it really high energy from what I played. Its just to bad the dps ques are so bad or I would work on getting it leveled up.

[NovaLevossida]

I think my biggest gripe is that you have a sword and your auto attacks only deal like 80 damage. I'm almost always stacked behind the boss with the group anyway for one reason or another (mechanics, Embolden, etc.), so I'm going to auto attack while I'm there, and I use Displacement / Corps-a-Corps the opposite way of what our RDM teacher told us (to get back into melee, not out of it). It just sucks that 80 damage auto attacks really just reinforces the idea that the sword is basically ornamental as someone else said.

Tested it again looks like i was wrong and only weapon skills do it.

Apologies.

For what it's worth, Sprint also breaks it.

[SkyCake]

Tested it again looks like i was wrong and only weapon skills do it.

Apologies.

No worries, Psycofang! I appreciate the conversation. I hope Squeenix is able to fix the tooltip, soon.

[Hyrist]

No worries, Psycofang! I appreciate the conversation. I hope Squeenix is able to fix the tooltip, soon.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post4229801

Looks like they're aware of it and will be patching it soon. So we're golden there.

[poffo]

This class while the theory behind it was strong is showing its weakness of insane boredom. In large groups you just repeatable spam Scatter and Contre Sith. And maybe if the mobs live long enough, you can do 3 Enhanced Moulinet. Meanwhile, in single boss fights, it might look like you 6 skills, but you're casting pretty much the same spell with a slightly different graphic.

I'm not looking for a complete remake. But we need to get more mana for the Red Mage Gauge faster. It's the only thing that would break up the monetary of the class that was given to us. We are a fighter/mage. Not 90% mage and 10% fighter.

I very much like it as it is...so back off ffs.

[Kiinoh]

I really like the way red mage is currently and I personally do not want to see it changed however I need to post to those saying red mage was always a caster first that you are wrong.

It might have been played mainly as a caster but the history and lore of the red mage is not caster main.

"Jack of ALL trades master of none."

Red mage is a proficient swordsman but not as good as warrior.
Red mage is proficient in low level black magic but not as good as black mage.
Red mage is proficient in low level white magic but not as good as white mage.

Those saying they want red mage as a true hybrid are correct it is meant to be able to do decent melee as well as ranged.
I re iterate though that I would rather it not changed and someone else rightly said a true hybrid wouldn't work in this game as it would just be alright in its 3 proficiencies but better to bring a sword/magic master.

Red mage is NOT traditionally a caster it was a hybrid of all 3 specialities.

[ElasmoFan]

While I'm sure they'll add more melee features in the next expansion (cause to be honest even being primarily caster right now, the melee is still a little dull) I think they're still going to keep it a primary caster. Not sure when but they even warned people ahead of time that it's even going to be a caster first and focus on spells. I personally don't think their going to move away from that in the future though i do think they should still add a bit more to the melee aspect of it.

As far as boring goes, that's entirely subjective and sounds like it's just not the class for you. While I personally agree that to me it's a rather boring job to play just based on how I enjoy playing the game, there are plenty of people who have fun with it and prefer it's simplicity.

[Tizzy_Tormentor]

Red Mage is okay, I enjoy playing literally any other DPS class at 70. The biggest problem for me is how stagnant it is, there is so little change in playstyle from when you start at 50 all the way to 70, low skill floor/low skill ceiling is the most apt way to describe it. I enjoyed levelling it, but I can't help but get tired of it fairly quickly.

Its also soul crushing when you run into a Red Mage that hardcasts veraero and verthunder, but hey, doesn't happen THAT often.