Consolidated White Mage 4.0 Feedback Thread

[Darkplanet]

3.) a lot of people are constantly speaking about how whm has a lack of utility. i agree with the idea of whm being a pure healer, but in this case adding a slight boost in attack speed for all players in the party would help whm have a bit more utility. This lets whm healers have a little something more to offer than just healing in end game raids.
4.) we have seen that whm is definitely lacking in the number of skill it has, adding a skill such as this^^ helps that issue.

i feel adding such a skill would be fairly easy, solve many of the issues with whm, and add some strategy/extra utility to whm. Keep in mind this skill itself doesn't take away everything that SE has done with whm so far. It keeps all the mechanics of each skill as they are, and making them more accessible. (although they can still be tweaked and adjusted as well of course)

in terms of lore, themes of growth or grace, (natural or divine) could fit with whm

thank you,
akira

[Jxnibbles]

I have yet to even get 3 lillies in a Dungeon..
I've done like 15 games of 8s, and 72mans pvp and that was the only time I got 3 lillies.. Such a bad system in PvE.

[Wasselin]

I often heal with a lot of cure and cure 2 in a dungeon when it's new to me and there were a large amount of times when I had nothing to spend lillies on. I don't have divine benison yet so that will probably change.

Lillies really need to proc off of more skills. Why not proc off of stone and/or holy? At least at a low rate?

[Reiryuu]

In the final instance with Sylphie, she finally starts casting stone 1, and aero as well iirc. She will also heal you. In the end, she sees the benefit of casting offensive magic as a means to protect those you care for. But why gripe about them taking away stoneskin in one breath, and then in your next you bring up Divine Benison and that it sucks and it's meh for tanks? Do you see what I'm getting at here?

Because Stoneskin was actually better. You can cast it any time you want, as often as you want, and it would last for 30 minutes and absorb a hit or two. Divine Benison lasts for fifteen seconds so you can barely use it to shield yourself before you pull something when soloing and you certainly can't use it to give your whole party a little buffer to help mitigate some of the damage they take in a dungeon/trial.

[Neela]

@Akira

welcome to the forums :3 just wanna give ya a small offtopic hint - you can workaround the 1k charactercap by editing your posts

Oh and i like your sig somehow <3

[AlphaSonic]

You could remove the lilies and I wouldn't notice at all.

You could remove plenary indulgence and I wouldn't notice at all.

That's how bad WHM it is.

This Air is really good though.

[Vamelo]

Of course, we're all playing for the top-end game. So, from what I've seen, don't roll a white mage since the AST is so superior as to make the WHM undesirable by other players requiring a healer.

On another note; the rule is "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." All the hours gone into the "one-of-a-kind" FFXIV system that was just replaced...also figured into paid game time (real money, honey) only to be thrown over the side for some pie-in-the-sky philosophical notion of improvement. This is short-sighted beyond belief. I read all the sweeping generalities of "what we're going to do is..." Unfortunately, the application of these pipe dreams was Epic Fail.

Now, I'm supposed to learn the NEW FFXIV!! (Waytaminnit...this WAS the NEW FFXIV!!!) You've managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory....Try some enlightened self-interest uh...Yoshi is it?

[Risvertasashi]

I read all the sweeping generalities of "what we're going to do is..." Unfortunately, the application of these pipe dreams was Epic Fail.

I had really high hopes for the cross role system myself. I still feel like, had they approached it differently, it could have really saved WHM. Instead... it was used to strip WHM even more.

[Inelastic]

Just finished the MSQ and some of my thoughts on the new system are that it really shines in 4-man dungeons. As in, you really get to utilize it there; not so much the trials. If the tank pulls a bunch of mobs, then you really get to use the lily system with spams of cures. I can usually generate plenty of lillies to consider utilizing them. In 8 mans, I just don't really use cure 1 or 2 that often. I mostly rely on both medicas, azzize, asylum, and renew. I might generate 1 or 2 lilies total in a trial but no where near enough for me to consider them as a tool.

[Arcana]

The guy who designed WHM abilities from 60 to 70 should be fired. I cant understand how Yoshi-P accepted this horrendous WHM progress to 70.