any1 else ready to boost to level 60 and skip story?

[savageink]

Not really. You can just as easily learn your job doing fates and soloable dungeons, or not. The only real factor influencing anything in all 3 situations is the player choosing to learn their job, not the content they are doing it in.

No. You can't. You can't learn to tank without BLMs stealing aggro. You can't learn to prioritize healing without something to heal. I play dps, I had to learn when to use the BRD songs for them to matter. I never use them in FATEs. Why would I? Who am I going to buff? Yes, you have to want to get better to learn your role, but to say that FATEs is even close to doing Garuda or Titan Hard mode mechanics is a bit off.

[Maliki_Ozari]

No. You can't. You can't learn to tank without BLMs stealing aggro. You can't learn to prioritize healing without something to heal. I play dps, I had to learn when to use the BRD songs for them to matter. I never use them in FATEs. Why would I? Who am I going to buff? Yes, you have to want to get better to learn your role, but to say that FATEs is even close to doing Garuda or Titan Hard mode mechanics is a bit off.

Yes, you actually can.

So in your opinion, if you only fate leveled, you would have no idea how to use bard songs in a dungeon?

Uh... Ok.

Also, who levels on Garuda and Titan hard mode? Dungeon leveling won't teach you those mechanics either. This seems like a silly thing to say.

[SDaemon]

but to say that FATEs is even close to doing Garuda or Titan Hard mode mechanics is a bit off.

You are bringing up fight mechanics. That isn't the same as learning your rotation, what your jobs does, and how it works. You can know your job and how to perform it without knowing mechanics to a fight.

[savageink]

Yes, you actually can.

So in your opinion, if you only fate leveled, you would have no idea how to use bard songs in a dungeon?

Uh... Ok.

Also, who levels on Garuda and Titan hard mode? Dungeon leveling won't teach you those mechanics either. This seems like a silly thing to say.

I'm talking about things in the MSQ. And reading about stuff is different then doing it. So, yeah, I'm sure you read some notes about your role and were perfect from day one.

You are bringing up fight mechanics. That isn't the same as learning your rotation, what your jobs does, and how it works. You can know your job and how to perform it without knowing mechanics to a fight.

And I was just mentioning a few things in the MSQ that are obviously harder than Fates and involve using your job skills AND learning mechanics. If you can't see beyond an example to what I'm saying then it's not my problem.

[SDaemon]

And I was just mentioning a few things in the MSQ that are obviously harder than the MSQ and involve using your job skills AND learning mechanics. If you can't see beyond an example to what I'm saying then it's not my problem.

If you can't see the difference between learning and knowing your job and learning and knowing mechanics then it's not my problem.

[savageink]

If you can't see the difference between learning and knowing your job and learning and knowing mechanics then it's not my problem.

I was talking about both and you are focusing on one. OK. You tell me how somebody can learn to work properly at their job so they can run dungeons while only having real in game experience running FATEs?

[Maliki_Ozari]

I was talking about both and you are focusing on one. OK. You tell me how somebody can learn to work properly at their job so they can run dungeons while only having real in game experience running FATEs?

Because it's not hard to learn a rotation. It's so simple it's amazing you still can't grasp it.

[cporter]

Because it's not hard to learn a rotation. It's so simple it's amazing you still can't grasp it.

I wouldn't go that far but I'm def ready for basic farming of dungeons.

[savageink]

Because it's not hard to learn a rotation. It's so simple it's amazing you still can't grasp it.

And you are ignorable. So from now on I will.

[Sinrai]

Because it's not hard to learn a rotation. It's so simple it's amazing you still can't grasp it.

It's not just rotations, though. There's bard buffs for example, when to use what. And then there's timing and positioning. Granted, you can do decently without thinking too much about those.

And while I personally don't understand why you'd want to experience SB's storyline without knowing what happened in ARR/HW, I get that everyone's tastes are different and some people just don't care for the story at all.

The only thing that worries me here is that this might attract a certain WoW crowd this game could really do without (and since this sentence might be misunderstood, no I'm not talking about WoW players in general, just certain ones that annoyed everyone else).