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  1. #21
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    SDaemon's Avatar
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    Koala Shibito
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    Sargatanas
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by savageink View Post
    I didn't say it was great experience. But better than fates or soloable dungeons.
    Not really. You can just as easily learn your job doing fates and soloable dungeons, or not. The only real factor influencing anything in all 3 situations is the player choosing to learn their job, not the content they are doing it in.
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  2. #22
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    Fyrebrand's Avatar
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    Friel Wyndor
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    Siren
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    White Mage Lv 100
    You're free to skip past story and whatnot, ignore most of the game, not give a care what anything is about... your decision, I guess. But in my opinion you are cheating yourself, and have no idea what you're missing.
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  3. #23
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    Hamada's Avatar
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    Aya Hamada
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 74
    Quote Originally Posted by Cyreil View Post
    Why do you want to skip it?
    Some people do not care for it:
    Quote Originally Posted by Hamada View Post
    I want to skip the 60-70 story so I can craft and gather

    If I had that buy-able option I would
    (edit forgot put my friend said this)
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  4. #24
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    savageink's Avatar
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    Dirk Gently
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    Malboro
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by SDaemon View Post
    Not really. You can just as easily learn your job doing fates and soloable dungeons, or not. The only real factor influencing anything in all 3 situations is the player choosing to learn their job, not the content they are doing it in.
    No. You can't. You can't learn to tank without BLMs stealing aggro. You can't learn to prioritize healing without something to heal. I play dps, I had to learn when to use the BRD songs for them to matter. I never use them in FATEs. Why would I? Who am I going to buff? Yes, you have to want to get better to learn your role, but to say that FATEs is even close to doing Garuda or Titan Hard mode mechanics is a bit off.
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  5. #25
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    Maliki_Ozari's Avatar
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    Maliki Ozari
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    Diabolos
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by savageink View Post
    No. You can't. You can't learn to tank without BLMs stealing aggro. You can't learn to prioritize healing without something to heal. I play dps, I had to learn when to use the BRD songs for them to matter. I never use them in FATEs. Why would I? Who am I going to buff? Yes, you have to want to get better to learn your role, but to say that FATEs is even close to doing Garuda or Titan Hard mode mechanics is a bit off.
    Yes, you actually can.

    So in your opinion, if you only fate leveled, you would have no idea how to use bard songs in a dungeon?

    Uh... Ok.

    Also, who levels on Garuda and Titan hard mode? Dungeon leveling won't teach you those mechanics either. This seems like a silly thing to say.
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  6. #26
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    Koala Shibito
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by savageink View Post
    but to say that FATEs is even close to doing Garuda or Titan Hard mode mechanics is a bit off.
    You are bringing up fight mechanics. That isn't the same as learning your rotation, what your jobs does, and how it works. You can know your job and how to perform it without knowing mechanics to a fight.
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  7. #27
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    Nova Wildstar
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    Faerie
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    Arcanist Lv 94
    I'm ready. I've got three alts I've never had the time to level through to endgame, and grind (oh so much grind) back up through the MSQ again.
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  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maliki_Ozari View Post
    Yes, you actually can.

    So in your opinion, if you only fate leveled, you would have no idea how to use bard songs in a dungeon?

    Uh... Ok.

    Also, who levels on Garuda and Titan hard mode? Dungeon leveling won't teach you those mechanics either. This seems like a silly thing to say.
    I'm talking about things in the MSQ. And reading about stuff is different then doing it. So, yeah, I'm sure you read some notes about your role and were perfect from day one.

    Quote Originally Posted by SDaemon View Post
    You are bringing up fight mechanics. That isn't the same as learning your rotation, what your jobs does, and how it works. You can know your job and how to perform it without knowing mechanics to a fight.
    And I was just mentioning a few things in the MSQ that are obviously harder than Fates and involve using your job skills AND learning mechanics. If you can't see beyond an example to what I'm saying then it's not my problem.
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  9. #29
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    Kanzaki Furia
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    Tonberry
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    Paladin Lv 70
    I thought this is a good idea for players who lost their account somehow... or simple doesn't want to deal with the leveling.

    I was going to get them for my friend who's account was banned because of financial dispute with SE (he said he didn't sub but SE won't refund so he disputed the CC charge and then.. ban

    but he absolutely refuses to play FF14 again... even when I bought a copy for him and installed on his PC.
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  10. #30
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    SDaemon's Avatar
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    Koala Shibito
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    Quote Originally Posted by savageink View Post
    And I was just mentioning a few things in the MSQ that are obviously harder than the MSQ and involve using your job skills AND learning mechanics. If you can't see beyond an example to what I'm saying then it's not my problem.
    If you can't see the difference between learning and knowing your job and learning and knowing mechanics then it's not my problem.
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