Boycotting Warrior 4.0 (Let's do it!)

[Reynhart]

And no, I don't think you can stay in deliverance all the time unless you get bad dps. I've tried some dungeon runs with a good smn and a good drk, the drk won't hold aggro if he doesn't pop grit at the start of the pulls.

You didn't have AoE Provoke back then

It's not about the damage output, it's about being the leader of a party and directing them towards victory, so to speak.

Get ready for dozens of "Tanks don't lead the party" responses

[whiskeybravo]

Get ready for dozens of "Tanks don't lead the party" responses

That's OK. I've been in enough groups that have wiped after a tank died to know the truth

But either way, it's just my opinion about tanking. Others are free to have their own, and they surely do lol

[aleph_null]

You didn't have AoE Provoke back then

Well you still won't catch up with good dps especially since decimate doesn't have aggro multiplier. You also need to do one eye combo (3 gcd) for the eye buff now, instead of just doing heavy swing and maim. Honestly thinking about stance dancing in dungeons is giving me headache lol, but I'm much more concerned about the raid opener/rotation especially when you need butcher's block to pull the boss. Potencies may change, but unless they change the gauge generation (which I doubt) the rotation should stay mostly the same.

[Didje]

... and deliverance cost 20 gauge points ... Bye bye warrior

[bswpayton]

Well you still won't catch up with good dps especially since decimate doesn't have aggro multiplier. You also need to do one eye combo (3 gcd) for the eye buff now, instead of just doing heavy swing and maim. Honestly thinking about stance dancing in dungeons is giving me headache lol, but I'm much more concerned about the raid opener/rotation especially when you need butcher's block to pull the boss. Potencies may change, but unless they change the gauge generation (which I doubt) the rotation should stay mostly the same.

ha I just wanted to test it out on tank aggro generation take it was just thordan normal trial but pretty much from what I saw on pali I could still just halone twice then turn on sword oath. Nobody was even gaining on me at all, two monks in the group to.

The thing is alot of dps got nerfed with buffs, for instance, monk no longer has b4b, dragoon no longer has ir and alot of other personal buffs, bard only has raging now them and mch, so spike damage is pretty much out the window I think could be wrong. So I just dont think that it is gona be to hard to tank in sword oath, deliverance, and darkside. Also every aggro combo also got a buff in aggro , so I say things are prtty much gona be the same with maybe just having to use your aggro combos a bit more