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    Quote Originally Posted by Vespar View Post
    Sorry for the sass but I really am just sick of whiny entitled lil brats today so here we go...

    If the devs stopped to address every single 'WAH I DONT LIKE THIS' issue, we would still be waiting for the first patch of ARR to come out.
    YES they do communicate. Its just not always about the things you think are priority.
    I am tired of the apologists and sycophants (is bootlicker a better word). If the devs took a second to think before they implemented open world content or took their hardware into consideration maybe we wouldn't have this discussion. I don't need a thousands of hours in game design to see that a mob where the whole server can get credit with random spawn is going to go over. Specially when we already had a fate system in place and know how that worked. Yet here hunts are. Here you are saying everything is ok and we should just let them be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonlite View Post
    I am tired of the apologists and sycophants (is bootlicker a better word). If the devs took a second to think before they implemented open world content or took their hardware into consideration maybe we wouldn't have this discussion. I don't need a thousands of hours in game design to see that a mob where the whole server can get credit with random spawn is going to go over. Specially when we already had a fate system in place and know how that worked. Yet here hunts are. Here you are saying everything is ok and we should just let them be.
    Okay. You've like entirely lost me. Everytime I make a comment, you spew off some other radical issue out of left field. WHAT DO YOU WANT?
    I dont even know anymore lol. It's comical. Clearly you want them to stop and address every tiny little issue or flaw you can think of. Again... they have priorities, if they stop to talk to you every time you stub your toe we wont see another patch or expansion for 1000 years.
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    Last edited by Vespar; 06-07-2017 at 11:44 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonlite View Post
    Snip.
    So your issue is devs not supossedly listening to hunt and FATE issues..?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rjspencer4 View Post
    You go to a cake shop owned by SE.
    SE says "the cake isn't ready yet, all we have now is a plastic display model."
    You don't listen, eat the plastic display model anyway, and get sick.
    "SE gave me food poisoning, spread the word."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiker View Post
    So your issue is devs not supossedly listening to hunt and FATE issues..?
    My issue is the lack of simple foresight and then follow up. Lets say dungeons are safe easy content. Short of some missed issue 4 players enter kill mobs and leave. Changing how cards are drawn is another safe fix and need to see how it turns out over a few weeks. Again not something that needs instant oversight. When you release content that A) upends current progression (being grind X something get new shiny, nerfed later get shiny faster) random shiny drops and laugh at others. B) involves whole server communities C) is something you think that might be seen as a design to force cash out of players (no this does not include emotes or gear) You should be prepared to answer a fair share of questions and have contingency plans in place. Or not implement that content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonlite View Post
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    Ah ... so your issue is with the mechanics of the game itself! And the developers not being able to see the future players reactions to said mechanics...? So you don't want developer communication, you want developers to overhaul things. You're just really unhappy about things in general.
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    Last edited by Raiker; 06-07-2017 at 12:38 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by rjspencer4 View Post
    You go to a cake shop owned by SE.
    SE says "the cake isn't ready yet, all we have now is a plastic display model."
    You don't listen, eat the plastic display model anyway, and get sick.
    "SE gave me food poisoning, spread the word."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonlite View Post
    My issue is the lack of simple foresight and then follow up. Lets say dungeons are safe easy content. Short of some missed issue 4 players enter kill mobs and leave. Changing how cards are drawn is another safe fix and need to see how it turns out over a few weeks. Again not something that needs instant oversight. When you release content that A) upends current progression (being grind X something get new shiny, nerfed later get shiny faster) random shiny drops and laugh at others. B) involves whole server communities C) is something you think that might be seen as a design to force cash out of players (no this does not include emotes or gear) You should be prepared to answer a fair share of questions and have contingency plans in place. Or not implement that content.
    How is any of this relating to lack of discussion as a whole? You seem to just spout off any and every issue (or non-issue) you can think of.
    A) SE has been known to make content easier over time because it affords casual players the opportunity to catch up while still allowing the hardcore players a challenge before the content is nerfed. This has been the case since Final Fantasy XI.

    B) The most recent whole server community issue I saw was the NA data center relocation which has indeed been responded to by the developers as they currently are trying to gather feedback on ISPs and players seeing out of the norm ping rates. Gathering feedback is still part of dev discussion. They are not going to respond with further information until they have some statistics and solutions to provide.

    C) As for cash shop stuff. Square Enix is a business. They are in this for the main purpose of generating income. if vanity cash shop items can generate them income, then of course they are going to do it. What about that needs the playerbase's feedback? If you dont like the cash shop, then vote with your wallet by not buying their items.
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