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    Developer lack of communication

    Everyone know that the community is pretty frazzled currently. A lot of it has to do with the change to the battle system. One of the more contentious topics is the state of the White Mage job.

    According to:

    http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv299...op_onair&row=2
    https://freshlive.tv/ngc

    Cure II spawns a lily 100% of the time.

    Per Yoshida:

    Interesting side note: Yoshida said that the build shown at the media tour is from late April, so around a whole month old by the time the info was released, and he also said a lot of other things have changed since. "Please look at the patch notes."

    This brings up a very important topic. Developer communication. During the Live Letter XXXVI the developers stressed that the numbers discussed "Weren't the final numbers". They KNEW during the live letter that everything discussed wasn't accurate and they had known it for at least 3 weeks. Why did they continue to broadcast information they KNEW was inaccurate?

    THIS. NEEDS. TO. STOP.

    We can only go forth trusting that the information the developers give us is accurate. If we can't trust that information, what is the point of the Live Letters? All they had to do is call up the Battle Design team a day or two before the presentation and get the proper numbers and abilities. I understand presentations are made ahead of time, and a quick correction to the presentation would be all that is needed.
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    Why does this need to stop?

    Seriously I think people take this nonsense too seriously. It's a video game. You want to know why the devs don't take us seriously? Cause of the over dramatic reactions ideas of things that are not even out yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keramory View Post
    Why does this need to stop?

    Seriously I think people take this nonsense too seriously. It's a video game. You want to know why the devs don't take us seriously? Cause of the over dramatic reactions ideas of things that are not even out yet.
    Game hasn't release yet and things are subject to change. Seriously they shouldn't say anything and let people discover how it works upon release. One thing for sure there is no pleasing everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    Game hasn't release yet and things are subject to change. Seriously they shouldn't say anything and let people discover how it works upon release. One thing for sure there is no pleasing everyone.
    Agree, needs to be quiet so no spoilers, more discover. Hell i love discovering stuff myself not be always hey we get this or that. It also raises too much hype if info to early, it definitely would make me impatient, ect!
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    I believe we will see Balthier in Eorzea one day!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keramory View Post
    ...Seriously I think people take this nonsense too seriously. It's a video game. You want to know why the devs don't take us seriously? Cause of the over dramatic reactions ideas of things that are not even out yet.
    Some of us have nothing better to do until 4.0 but be dramatic. But this time it's..really out of hand.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    This brings up a very important topic. Developer communication...
    ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Everyone know that the community is pretty frazzled currently. A lot of it has to do with the change to the battle system. One of the more contentious topics is the state of the White Mage job.

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    no english translation ?
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    The Dev-team is probably trying their hardest right now to finish a major project, aka the expansion - publishing and correcting minor details like this in a presentation thats mostly meant to keep people excited and give them an idea about whats coming for them, is most likely not their biggest concern right now.
    My guess: they continued to broadcast this information, that they claimed might be inaccurate because they simply had more important stuff on their plate than micromanage something silly like that.

    The point in the live letters is not to get 100% correct information - seriously, you're complaining about something that might still be tested during that time to figure out how to best balance it. The point is to give people an insight into what the devs are doing, keep them excited, maybe a feeling of being "included". For all that we know those numbers are changing within the day while the battle team is trying something out - so giving one number and saying "that can change" is as accurate as it will get.
    Final, 100% accurate information has to be in the patch-notes - and they referred you/everyone to those.

    I get that people are upset with WHM-changes in general - what I dont get is why someone would get worked up like this over something that (in the grande scheme of things aka a whole expansion) is a minor detail...
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    I don't think you know what an actual lack of communication looks like, at least as far as it pertains to your issue. They said that the numbers weren't final... that doesn't mean the information given is inaccurate, it means that the information can change. If by release, the tooltip didn't change but the actual numbers did, or vise versa, then yes, that IS inaccurate information. The only true inaccuracies came from mistranslations, notably, the damage buff if a MCH heat gauge reaches 100, opposed to the initial tooltip that said you got a damage nerf. That's really par for the course though, and doesn't mean much in the end.

    So... get off your soap box.
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    Haven't they said since the start of the live letter that it is not the final version?
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    It was literally stated in the disclaimers that this was an older test build and things can change at anytime. They knew this and you knew this. Freaking out of tooltips is just silly at this point.
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