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    My assumption was right. I worked around an opener that takes into account Warrior's "Maim" being cast as the second GCD to apply Slashing Debuff on the target, so that we can start our combo with Hakaze-Jinpu-Gekko and get Higanbana buffed by both Slashing Debuff and Jinpu instead of only Slashing Debuff if we started our rotation with Hakaze-Yukikaze. Here it is:

    Hakaze (5K) - Jinpu (10K) - Gekko (20K) - Iaijutsu (Higanbana) (20K) - Hakaze (25K) - Shifu (30K) - Hissatsu: Shinten (5K) - Kasha (15K) - Meikyo Shisui (15K) - Gekko (25K) - Yukikaze (35K) - Hissatsu: Kaiten (15K) - Iaijutsu (Midare Setsugekka) (15K) - Kasha (25K) - Hagakure (45K) - Hakaze (50K) - Hissatsu: Guren (0K) - Jinpu (5K) - Gekko (15K) - Hakaze (20K) - Yukikaze (30K) - Hissatsu: Shinten (5K) - Hakaze (10K) - Shifu (15K) - Kasha (25K) - Hissatsu: Kaiten (5K) - Iaijutsu (Midare Setsugekka) (5K)


    Edit: Corrected typo in the rotation
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    Last edited by Sai-Kon; 06-06-2017 at 04:13 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sai-Kon View Post
    Hakaze (5K) - Jinpu (10K) - Gekko (20K) - Iaijutsu (Higanbana) (20K) - Hakaze (25K) - Shifu (30K) - Hissatsu: Shinten (5K) - Kasha (15K) - Meikyo Shisui (15K) - Gekko (25K) - Yukikaze (35K) - Hissatsu: Kaiten (15K) - Iaijutsu (Midare Setsugekka) (15K) - Kasha (25K) - Hagakure (45K) - Hakaze (50K) - Hissatsu: Guren (0K) - Jinpu (5K) - Gekko (15K) - Hakaze (20K) - Yukikaze (30K) - Hissatsu: Shinten (5K) - Gekko (15K) - Hakaze (20K) - Yukikaze (30K) - Hissatsu: Shinten (5K) - Hakaze (10K) - Shifu (15K) - Kasha (25K) - Hissatsu: Kaiten (5K) - Iaijutsu (Midare Setsugekka) (5K)
    That gekko where does it come from? its wrong i think.

    I have calculated pps from this "opener" and its low, really low.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greywolfamakir View Post
    That gekko where does it come from? its wrong i think.

    I have calculated pps from this "opener" and its low, really low.
    Oops, there was a mistake while typing it. Let me correct it right away:

    Hakaze - Jinpu - Gekko - Iaijutsu - Hakaze - Shifu - Hissatsu: Shinten - Kasha - Meikyo Shisui - Gekko - Yukikaze - Hissatsu: Kaiten - Iaijutsu - Kasha - Hagakure - Hakaze - Hissatsu: Guren - Jinpu - Gekko - Hakaze - Yukikaze - Hissatsu: Shinten - Hakaze - Shifu - Kasha - Hissatsu: Kaiten - Iaijutsu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sai-Kon View Post
    Oops, there was a mistake while typing it. Let me correct it right away:

    Hakaze - Jinpu - Gekko - Iaijutsu - Hakaze - Shifu - Hissatsu: Shinten - Kasha - Meikyo Shisui - Gekko - Yukikaze - Hissatsu: Kaiten - Iaijutsu - Kasha - Hagakure - Hakaze - Hissatsu: Guren - Jinpu - Gekko - Hakaze - Yukikaze - Hissatsu: Shinten - Hakaze - Shifu - Kasha - Hissatsu: Kaiten - Iaijutsu


    You can find a better one, for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greywolfamakir View Post


    You can find a better one, for sure.
    Post a better one then?

    Edit: And time is not 44.64, it is 42.66 so your timer is off.
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    Last edited by Sai-Kon; 06-06-2017 at 05:08 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sai-Kon View Post
    Post a better one then?

    Edit: And time is not 44.64, it is 42.66 so your timer is off.
    My time is perfectly fine dude.

    GCD:2.4
    GCD after Shifu: 2.16

    Hakaze (2.4) - Jinpu (2.4) - Gekko (2.4)- Iaijutsu (2.4)- Hakaze (2.4)- Shifu (2.4)- Hissatsu: Shinten - Kasha (2.16)- Meikyo Shisui - Gekko (2.16)- Yukikaze (2.16)- Hissatsu: Kaiten - Iaijutsu (2.16)- Kasha (2.16)- Hagakure - Hakaze (2.16)- Hissatsu: Guren - Jinpu (2.16)- Gekko (2.16)- Hakaze (2.16)- Yukikaze (2.16)- Hissatsu: Shinten - Hakaze (2.16)- Shifu (2.16)- Kasha (2.16)- Hissatsu: Kaiten - Iaijutsu(2.16)

    2.4 * 6 + 2.16 * 14 = 44.64


    But im sorry if i offend you, it wasn't my intention. I wont waste more time on this forum, people barely know how to sum two integers...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greywolfamakir View Post

    But im sorry if i offend you, it wasn't my intention. I wont waste more time on this forum, people barely know how to sum two integers...
    That depends on the time frame you are counting. If you are going first skill to last skill it's only 42.48. If you are going beginning of first gcd to end of last gcd it is 44.64 as you say. Either way your condescending attitude is not called for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greywolfamakir View Post

    I wont waste more time on this forum, people barely know how to sum two integers...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sai-Kon View Post
    Oops, there was a mistake while typing it. Let me correct it right away:

    Hakaze - Jinpu - Gekko - Iaijutsu - Hakaze - Shifu - Hissatsu: Shinten - Kasha - Meikyo Shisui - Gekko - Yukikaze - Hissatsu: Kaiten - Iaijutsu - Kasha - Hagakure - Hakaze - Hissatsu: Guren - Jinpu - Gekko - Hakaze - Yukikaze - Hissatsu: Shinten - Hakaze - Shifu - Kasha - Hissatsu: Kaiten - Iaijutsu
    Take my statement with a grain of salt, as I am not in any way a theory crafter aside from general conjecture. But the Hagakure placement seems less than ideal, considering you'll only have one Sen at that point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShaolinMike View Post
    Take my statement with a grain of salt, as I am not in any way a theory crafter aside from general conjecture. But the Hagakure placement seems less than ideal, considering you'll only have one Sen at that point.
    Yes, you are right. I said that myself in my post that this is not the most optimal version of the rotation (yet still better than anything else), but it will be something alone the lines. I will try to optimize Meikyo Shisui and Hagakure a bit more now that I know the most efficient way to start opener.
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