Consolidated White Mage 4.0 Feedback Thread

[Chiami]

Adding my voice as well. I have been WHM my entire Eorzean career, period. I AM one of those "pure healers" at heart, but I am also a team player -- like any good gamer in MMOs. That means I heal but good dps and good utility are also important in this game. I even leveled all those dps and by now also tanking ONLY so that I could become a better WHM by understanding the other jobs truly from the inside and intuitively (by having experienced them myself). Things like timing my heals and stuns and everything as perfectly as possible for the tank (e.g. Holy stun while DRK is in blood price? BAD!), giving what little utility I have to the DPS when needed, positioning myself tactically the best way depending on the other jobs present and their typical patterns of movement, you name it.

I won't go over the 50 shades of clusterf*** done to WHM, everyone else already has pointed them out here again and again.

Now I am going through the 4 stages of grief and will spend the remaining days til SB to force-level AST from current 45 to 60 because it does almost everything "typical WHM" equal or better than WHM come SB. Thing is... I DO NOT LIKE AST, cause I hate RNG in heals/buffs (and proactive SCH is 100% not my style of healing). But with all the clobbering done to WHM you are a fool if you still play white mage, stunting your own performance levels for the sake of... what?

SE got my money and I will keep playing til my paid-for subscription is up, or at least til I am done with MSQ (cause I am curious). Then I will see if they give us back a WHM design that is worth playing or if I can make peace with AST (unlikely...). Otherwise I will unsub for good, most likely.

Well done, SE. You totally massacred WHM you claimed to be your "iconic healer" and with it any joy and anticipation I had for Stormblood. Now I am awaiting it with a pretty miserable feeling and cling to the small sliver of hope that you will fix this massive failure before I lose any interest in FFXIV, because going DPS or tank instead as my main just won't cut it for me in the long run

That's not how you keep people subscribed.

[Waliel]

Lilies:

• Each lily increases the damage of everyone around you by 1%, up to a maximum of 3%.

  In addition to the cooldown reductions. Also reduces the cooldown of any skill with recast of 60 or longer. Reduction lowered slightly to 5/10/15%.

• Cure and Cure 2 have a 35% chance per cast (70% on crit) to grant a lily.
• Cure 3 and the initial cast of Medica and Medica 2 have 15% chance per person healed for at least 15% of their maximum HP to grant a lily.

  Meaning 60% chance when healing four people. Has a healing requirement to prevent fishing for procs.

• Each tick of Regen has a 10% chance (20% on crit) and Medica 2 has a 5% chance to grant a lily.

  Each tick would be individual chance, like Thundercloud. Medica 2 on eight people would be roughly 33% chance to gain a lily every tick.

• You can only gain a lily once every 7 seconds.

  Prevents you from immediately getting fully stacked.

Confessions:

• Any direct healing has a 30% chance (100% on crit) to grant a stack and any heal over time effects have a 10% chance to grant a stack per tick.
• Assize and Cure 3 refreshes the stacks to full duration for any person hit.

  My first thought when I saw them was that they should never expire unless you go out of combat.

• Each stack increases healing received from the WHM by 3%, up to a maximum of 9%.

  Maybe? Lower amounts feel insignificant. 6% from all sources? Probably not needed at all.

Something like this maybe? Personally I'm not a fan of RNG while healing, but eh.

[OzumaKuma]

Bumping this up, please change WHM before launch of SB. That job is my jam

[fantasticm]

Fluid Aura no longer does damage (wait people were using this for damage?)

other than no more StoneSkin that nobody ever used because the tanks ran off and it drops off after one hit in just about every situation.

However players playing WHM as intended still want those skills [Regen and Medica II], so perhaps the CD on these skills should be extended so that they can't just be on full time.

Is this real life?

...Anyway, people do still care about mechanics. And what if someone (a WHM) wants to get a group together to do old content at minimum ilvl sync? Your belief that the lack of Stoneskin won't make any difference is ludicrous. As someone mentioned in another thread, certain fights will make you suffer for it, most notably T8 and T11.

[fantasticm]

Something like this maybe? Personally I'm not a fan of RNG while healing, but eh.

I'm a fan.

Then again I'm of the belief that literally anything is better than what we have now. If the only use of Lilies was a single-target 50 potency damage spell that caused the target to shoot fireworks out of its sphincter, it would still be an improvement.

[SlogDog]

Literal trash

Is this real life?

...Anyway, people do still care about mechanics. And what if someone (a WHM) wants to get a group together to do old content at minimum ilvl sync? Your belief that the lack of Stoneskin won't make any difference is ludicrous. As someone mentioned in another thread, certain fights will make you suffer for it, most notably T8 and T11.

This basically.

[Ama_Hamada]

Well despite a bit of sass they did they do have a point...there is already a thread in General Discussion about WHM (which you've posted in so you know it is there) so flooding with more topics on the exact same subject is just cluttering and unnecessary :/

I doono where this other thread is but relevant:

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

I just wonder why people are this obsessed with dps. It seems like there should be other important things to consider, besides what does the most "MUH DEEPZ." At least, IMHO.

[fantasticm]

And didn't you know? you don't always get them...and if the person you're healing is at FULL HP, the lily proc chance is apparently 0%

Do you have a source on this? I'd love to see it.

[Ama_Hamada]

Well this is fitting for this thread: