Consolidated White Mage 4.0 Feedback Thread

[Leigaon]

...There, fixed. I don't even play WHM and some of the things I have in mind are probably a bit much in the field, but don't act like it's rocket science to implement non-numerical buffs/changes.

You've done a lot better than 80% of the people on this thread did. So take my like. So many threads (like we needed another?) with nothing but complaining and no real solutions, if there are they're deep in the 16+ pages of this thread and are lost inside all the mud that people are slinging.

Like someone said, we don't know if these potencies are final, scrolling through some pages all I see is the 900 potency AST jumping out at me. So if they decide to reduce that...

I think using the Regens and cool downs that aren't just Cure I / II to gather lilies is a better idea. This game relies on us as white mages to take care of AoE wide damage. Medica (maybe not medica II?) would help with that, we would gather more flowers. As for Plenary, same deal let Medica / Cure III and a smaller chance of Regen help add the stacks.

Regen for me at least is a major utility when it can sustain a tank for long enough for me to get out an Aero III / Stone. Letting Regen sustain a member while gathering flowers and placing a stackable / aoe triggered heal is a lot going on with one more, but it builds.

That 20% could change also, at least that's what I'm hoping. That's a low % for something that can be very helpful.

To those who just simply put "get rid of it! disgusting..I'm applaud!" Okay, well pretend like it is deleted and go play something else, because saying "just delete whm" is not helping. It's like you came over from Summoner with that attitude, and we saw what you little yippers did with that. No, really..you can leave. The quality of the job will not get better with things like "this is trash. fix it fix it!" Hell, half the time people come up with their own version and it's just as much filled with worthless crap as the original design. We understand the potential problems that can come from this and now we should be at a point where we need to do a few things. One is accept the possibility that things aren't final, so lets prepare for what could be tweaked that would help.

aeoncs tweaks are small, and very possible to adjust. Lets also take into account that other jobs will be reworked. Most peoples complaints are valid, but some are just over the top. We're not panicking because we like to see the final version. Half of these people like that person who sees the low tire pressure sign on their car come up and go "Oh god..oh god..i'm going to die. My tire is going to go flat and it's going to fly off..i'll flip..it will crash into the other car killing them but something in the tire brings them back to life as a zombie. No..no apocalypse! I...will...survive! Out of my way all of you! Move!" We see a signal, we know there's a potential problem..lets find out if we got a nail in our tire to screw it up or if the cap just wasn't tightened all the way.

In the end I guess there's no use, people will complain. Go on..go for it. See you in two weeks..or not. I won't notice. I'll be busy...playing white mage. #flowerpower #youdontpaymysub

[Urthdigger]

To those who just simply put "get rid of it! disgusting..I'm applaud!" Okay, well pretend like it is deleted and go play something else, because saying "just delete whm" is not helping.

The reason I say to delete WHM isn't for me. Sure, I can just drop it and never touch it again, and I plan to do so. What bothers me though is that people may pick it up expecting it to be a decent healer, only to find out later that it's objectively worse.

This isn't just "The meta prefers other jobs", this is a case of other jobs doing better at literally ever aspect of WHM, and steps should be taken to ensure people don't make the mistake of playing it.

[xbahax92]

The reason I say to delete WHM isn't for me. Sure, I can just drop it and never touch it again, and I plan to do so. What bothers me though is that people may pick it up expecting it to be a decent healer, only to find out later that it's objectively worse.

This isn't just "The meta prefers other jobs", this is a case of other jobs doing better at literally ever aspect of WHM, and steps should be taken to ensure people don't make the mistake of playing it.

Comparing the other jobs without testing out and trying out wont do anything either. Just because its written on the paper and other healer jobs look like they will do better than WHM cant be argued right now. It might be that everything for WHM looks really bad at the moment. But this doesnt mean, the WHM may not be buffed later on. Dont be suprised if the other healers get actually nerfed, because that would actually cause a real shitstorm.

[Urthdigger]

Comparing the other jobs without testing out and trying out wont do anything either. Just because its written on the paper and other healer jobs look like they will do better than WHM cant be argued right now. It might be that everything for WHM looks really bad at the moment. But this doesnt mean, the WHM may not be buffed later on. Dont be suprised if the other healers get actually nerfed, because that would actually cause a real shitstorm.

If things are changed then by all means I'll change my stance. As it is now though, not only are the potencies terrible, but the type of gameplay required to utilize the new stuff encourages terrible play (Mostly by discouraging anything that isn't cure, cure 2, or assize)