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    TheRealMadruck's Avatar
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    I made a video doing a actual comparison of prices of FF14 compared to other MMO's in the market today to give the facts on market pricing and if SE truly is charging to much for costumes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmSIj6tJMlI

    DISCLAIMER: I understand that costumes in the MMO's I talk about could be cheaper if you make large purchases of their game currency but this information is factual based on the numbers of single purchases done. Also, I understand that people may have issue with paying for a costume because this is already a Sub based MMO. Remember, these games I mention are not required to have a Sub to play them but additional extremely useful perks are unlocked through them. Hence why a good portion of these game's player base will be subscribers!
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    It bothers me greatly that they are selling eastern themed outfits right before an eastern expansion. Like the outfits were made for the expansion, then they put them on the mog station instead.

    I don't mind cash shops in mmos, but I expect them in f2p/b2p games, because that is how they make money. I choose to play a game with a subscription because I'm of the understand that sub will get me access to all parts of the game. Things like transfers, fantasias, etc, they are fine on a cash shop, but costumes, emotes and mounts are getting frustrating. Yes, they are optional and I dont have to buy them (I wont), but I shouldnt have to be paying extra for some simple vanity items when I'm already paying a sub. I do hope this doesnt go further to the point that we cant get any cool new mounts or costumes in game without buying them off the mogstation
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dijana View Post
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    I don't foresee that (not) stopping, honestly. Considering a lot of fanfest submission questions were 'will we see this ingame or on cash shop?' questions, it's most likely the "We're working on it" will be "it's actually gonna be cash shop available only" items.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dijana View Post
    It bothers me greatly that they are selling eastern themed outfits right before an eastern expansion. Like the outfits were made for the expansion, then they put them on the mog station instead.
    Do you really think there wont be eastern themed gear in Stormblood?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ogulbuk View Post
    Do you really think there wont be eastern themed gear in Stormblood?
    Nope. None at all. We are going to have an entire eastern themed expansion with no gear that would fit the theme.

    Clearly.
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    Player Vhailor's Avatar
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    Personally speaking, I just shake my head and utter a mental "what a f*cking moron" whenever I see someone wandering around in an overpriced trinket from the Mog Station. There's not a lot else I can do, beyond not purchase the items myself (or give up on MMOs entirely).

    Some might call this overly hostile, but I disagree. People purchasing this crap are the reason why SE continues to put it up there. They're the same people who buy overpriced DLC for other titles, too. They're the reason why AAA titles are becoming more and more infested with nickel-and-dime schemes. Considering I find this whole paradigm distinctly unpleasant, referring to them as "f*cking morons" in my head seems perfectly justified.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    That's the way all businesses operate. I'm certain that if you had a business, while you would be concerned about customer satisfaction, you would also be concerned about your daily, weekly, monthly, and yearly profits. Because you would have business bills to pay. You would have to pay to rent the space your business occupies. You would have to pay your employees. You would have to pay for supplies your business may need. You would have to pay for electricity and water. I could go on. Businesses that don't make any money slowly go out of business. Or are bought up by larger businesses. You can't expect SE to just have one source of income (subscriptions).
    If SE was really all that concerned about their "business bills" then I suspect they'd make more of an effort to, y'know, not release terribly-planned pieces of content like Diadem or Hunts. Or that they'd do a better job assessing balance before releasing Heavensward, which featured a dead-on-arrival AST which wasn't viable for months on end, or before releasing Stormblood, which will feature a dead-on-arrival WHM.

    Intelligently-run businesses think long-term as well as short-term. The Mog Station is a result of short-term thinking, along with the vastly overpriced DLC companies love to release for other AAA games these days. Long-term thinking would suggest that companies should be quite careful about not pissing all over their reputation. Consumers have long memories. Rip them off one too many times, and they'll avoid going back to your stuff for years on end - even once you've changed your practises.

    In short, it's not as simple as saying "businesses need to diversify, so let's excuse every sh*tty idea they have in the name of capitalism."
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    Last edited by Vhailor; 06-01-2017 at 12:38 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vhailor View Post
    Personally speaking, I just shake my head and utter a mental "what a f*cking moron" whenever I see someone wandering around in an overpriced trinket from the Mog Station. There's not a lot else I can do, beyond not purchase the items myself (or give up on MMOs entirely).

    Some might call this overly hostile, but I disagree. People purchasing this crap are the reason why SE continues to put it up there. They're the same people who buy overpriced DLC for other titles, too. They're the reason why AAA titles are becoming more and more infested with nickel-and-dime schemes. Considering I find this whole paradigm distinctly unpleasant, referring to them as "f*cking morons" in my head seems perfectly justified.
    Why do you care so much about what other people do with their money? Genuinely curious here, since you seem so upset over others spending their money however they see fit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    Why do you care so much about what other people do with their money? Genuinely curious here, since you seem so upset over others spending their money however they see fit.
    It affects our game experience because it means more things get designed for the cash shop rather than for the game itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    It affects our game experience because it means more things get designed for the cash shop rather than for the game itself.
    But it really doesnt...plenty of glamours/emotes/hairstyles/dyes are added in game. a couple glamour sets wont change the massive amount of content still within the game itself through patches, expac, seasonal events....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    It affects our game experience because it means more things get designed for the cash shop rather than for the game itself.
    But they're not taking resources away from the main development team to make these items in the slightest. They are separate teams with separate budgets.

    They have gone on record as saying the cash shop items wouldn't exist in the first place if this cash shop team didn't exist and decide that these items were profitable enough for inclusion.

    I'm not touching rentable storage though, dunno the thought process behind that one.
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