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    Dudes. The price is completely ridiculous, I agree.

    If you don't like it, then don't buy it and then the prices will go down. If enough people don't mind the cost and do buy the items then the cost will most likely stay the same.

    This is pretty basic stuff here.
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    It's a subscription MMO with a cash shop. After the customers told them that was okay when they should have stood against it, anything goes. I'm not surprised, but I'm also not going to support that.
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    I don't know what everyone's situation is like but the price points of these things tend to settle around metric data. People have stated this in various ways already.

    The pay to play model isn't exactly popular as it is. Personally I barely notice the cost and find the price of the additional items trivial. If not utterly meaningless. As im sure would anyone on an average city income. Point being, perspectives are different.

    Knowing what the cash shop funding is put towards and considering the items are optional, I'm not entirely sure what the problem is. So they may not be available in game sure. But realize that if they were - people wouldn't buy them. Thus the cash shop wouldn't be generating the additional income they aim for. You may feel like the sub generates enough. I imagine however, that in these times (and with so few flocking to the sub models vs other games) that it does not. If you truly have the best interests of the game at heart, at least approach the subject with less of a 'me, me, me' point of view.
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    Last edited by Mindiori; 05-31-2017 at 06:32 AM.

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    For me I make a pretty healthy amount of money IRL, but I'm also a dumbass who spends my way into the poor house on stupid stuff like cash shop goodies. I wouldn't mind it being free, but if I wasn't buying this I'd be buying something else.
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    Everyone makes good points but the point is that Square is a business first and foremost and they decided that they can make a profit by selling things in a cash shop. These cash shop items are optional and don't affect core gameplay in any way, they are just for show.

    I'm pretty sure that they would have carefully calculated an algorithm that determines the price that they set these items at. There's going to be a smooth spot that makes the most money possible. Why price something lower with more people buying it when you earn less than what you could get if you price higher but less people buy it? That makes no logical sense in terms of business to sell it at a lower price that gets you less profit.

    It just happens that there are enough people are willing to buy it at the current rate that it doesn't matter that they're selling less. It is digital goods after all, they don't run out of those. Physical stores have stock and would like to sell them all.

    As for me, I have no interest in them, so I won't buy it like I did the play dead emote (which I use all the time).
    My friend bought it because he's a sucker for that style and has more money than I do.
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    I have been debating between participating in this thread and not participating for a couple of days, because what i have to say may very well leave many people traumatized and in need of medical assistance.

    Finally, after losing a bet and forced to act against my better judgment, i feel obligated to share my revolutionary idea with you all, cursed be all consequences.

    Well, here it goes:

    If you do not like the costume or think it´s overpriced:
    Do not buy it
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    Quote Originally Posted by SagaSoluna View Post
    I have been debating between participating in this thread and not participating for a couple of days
    ...I made it this afternoon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SagaSoluna View Post
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    Oh my gosh, I had never thought of that! Thank you for showing us the way. <sarcasm>
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    Act in such a way that you treat humanity, whether in your own person or in the person of another, always at the same time as an end and never simply as a means

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nix View Post
    Oh my gosh, I had never thought of that! Thank you for showing us the way. <sarcasm>
    Clearly most people need to be shown the way. We don't need a damn thread everytime a new Mog Station item comes out. Yes we get you don't like it. No it's not going anywhere. Yes people will continue to buy stuff from it. No your complaining, as a vocal minority, won't change a thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaizeGraymalkin View Post
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    It may~ But I'd appreciate it it the argument in favor of the cash shop items being so expensive was something more constructive than "OMG JUST DON'T BUY IT."

    I understand that the cash shop is here to stay, and that's cool - but for me and many others, the value just isn't there. If they put things at fair prices (we're not asking for freebies or handouts) then we'd be more inclined to buy from them... And I think that's a point that a lot of people are missing.
    We understand that it takes work, manpower, and even skill to put these items together. That being said that there's a line that's kinda being crossed in how things are priced, especially when compared to other successful MMOs on the market that have cash shops... (Not to mention those that rely on cash shops as a means of revenue as they don't have subs yet still offer cheaper items... <_>)

    What would you say if SE started offering a 2-piece clothing bundle for $30? $50? "It's okay, they can charge what they want!" Would you still buy it, even though at $50 that's 5 months sub? Where is the line drawn for you, I'm curious.

    The forums are here to provide feedback (another thing that people seem to forget, and want to brush everything off as 'needless complaining'), so that means on occasion we have to air out some negative stuff. How else are the staff going to understand how we feel on certain topics? I haven't developed telepathy yet sadly, god that'd make my life easier.

    If you don't like these threads, you don't need to read them; they're going to exist whether we want them to or not. (neat how that argument works)
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    Last edited by Nix; 05-31-2017 at 09:55 AM.

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