Are role actions a nerf?

[Aramina]

Where is proof of this? To me people are just saying that to make sense of the nonsense of making the role actions like they are. That also basically means you can always use all of them, just leave your menu up, leaving more hudd bloat????

They did say it is not the final version and I hope these threads are letting them think some things over. They should just make baseline abilities baseline, all this is achieving is illusion of choice.

No, illusion of choice is what we have now, ie more skills/slots available than we would ever *really* use (on some classes at least).

actually I believe if the devs came out and said u no longer have to level a job to get cross class skills and kept the sytem in tack and made the good changes like wm , and cleric then there wouldnt be a single complaint thread. But instead they stripped jobs of their abilities and called it something good for the game not really. In a video I was watchin pretty much what good is a ninja now every dps can pretty much do what they do now. Giving goad to all dps jobs is total trash, if they think that this is gona balance things out for any job to go into raid they are clear mistaken skills that made some jobs unique are just thrown into a pool now

Hit cap so editing a previous reply:

If they took things and gave you nothing in return then you may have a point, but that's not what is happening. In addition to the problems with levelling "off classes" for skills is the problem of button bloat. Would you rather have what you have now in perpetuity with no chance of anything new or would you rather give up something to gain something new/more interesting/potentially better? I know what I would pick and it is most definitely *not* stagnancy