Issues with some zones and aethertes, please do not repeat this in SB

[Tachyon]

Travel is already pretty trivial with flying, why reduce the area size even more? Plus, I thought beastman territory was supposed to be difficult to get into (trying to make it feel dangerous, I guess). If you are speaking solely of people pulling hunts/fates too quickly then that is more of a community problem and less of an area design problem I'd think?

[Ama_Hamada]

If you are speaking solely of people pulling hunts/fates too quickly then that is more of a community problem and less of an area design problem I'd think?

Nope, not when you remove chat from pvp, so that shows me if the dev team whats to address community problems, why not this one? People should be given the tools to get to them in time, along with gathering and other things, with these zones (or in the case of Mor Dhona/Coerthas Central Highlands, high traffic points for quests.) I lost count how many times I wanted to teleport to those 3 points. It gets old running there back and forth back and forth, let me teleport there darn it.

Travel is already pretty trivial with flying, why reduce the area size even more? Plus, I thought beastman territory was supposed to be difficult to get into (trying to make it feel dangerous, I guess)

Not for these zones as stated, it takes to long, also why have a 5 mile wide map with 2 points right next to each other? They never felt dangerous, if you want a feel of danger, bring back mor dhona 1.0, nothing compares to it so I would disagree on that feeling.

[DaikiKiyoshi]

Nope, not when you remove chat from pvp, so that shows me if the dev team whats to address community problems, why not this one?



Not for these zones as stated, it takes to long, also why have a 5 mile wide map with 2 points right next to eachother?

Not in favor. Please no.


Another pvp chat thread in disguise?

[SenorPatty]

Not in favor. Please no.


Another pvp chat thread in disguise?

Its like

She makes a good point

But then

Takes two steps back and brings something completely unrelated

Why?

[Ama_Hamada]

Its like

She makes a good point

But then

Takes two steps back and brings something completely unrelated

Why?

So you just want me to ignore people bringing up things unrelated and attacking me for no reason? I do not know why people are just focusing on fate/hunts and attacking me for being on some server, it effects gathering too. A lot of time is wasted when things pop in The Sea of Clouds, and too much time is wasted traveling when doing tribes for East Shroud/Outer La Noscea areas. These quests is a ton of back and forth, so teleporting helps it make it feel less painful

I think the main complaint about hinterlands was because its split into two 'zones' which means double loading screens

No idea what you mean, it has no teleport thing at all.

[SenorPatty]

So you just want me to ignore people bringing up things unrelated and attacking me for no reason? I do not know why people are just focusing on fate/hunts and attacking me for being on some server, it effects gathering too. A lot of time is wasted when things pop in The Sea of Clouds, and too much time is wasted traveling when doing tribes for East Shroud/Outer La Noscea areas. These quests is a ton of back and forth, so teleporting helps it make it feel less painful

Yes

Ignore people who bring unrelated points to your topic. Just say "that's unrelated" and move on.

You have trigger button that you need to deal with cuz you're a person that actually brings up good points but then people tend to not to take you seriously whenever you bring up your personal beef. It's not the first time you veiled a thread behind pvp chat.

Move on and stop getting triggered for nothing.

[Ama_Hamada]

Yes

Ignore people who bring unrelated points to your topic. Just say "that's unrelated" and move on.

You have trigger button that you need to deal with cuz you're a person that actually brings up good points but then people tend to not to take you seriously whenever you bring up your personal beef. It's not the first time you veiled a thread behind pvp chat.

Move on and stop getting triggered for nothing.

It is not a "personal beef" I do not understand why this is so hard to understand. If the dev team is already doing changes because how the community acts, how can one say one change is valid and another isn't because it is a change based how the community acts? Post limit here, the DF lock out if you leave, DF lock out if you can't accpet queue (and this can be unfair because it takes too long to change job when in a fate, or when doing a high level craft) and PvP chat removal are all changes because it is community babying. So how can one defend the aetherte shortcomings based on "devs should not be babying people" when several changes already happened based off it? It is not a "personal beef" it is showing why that argument is not a valid one, why this is so hard for people to understand, I got no idea.

How come people seem to be ok with 2 aethertes 5 feet from each other in a zone that is 5 miles long? How come people are ok with an aetherte in a zone that is 5 miles long where it is very close from the aetherte city zone? These are map design flaws.

Also for the "traveling should be dangerous" news flash, 2.0+ never was anywhere and I never seen anyone argue over that needed to change.

[Natashio]

Nope, not when you remove chat from pvp, so that shows me if the dev team whats to address community problems, why not this one?

This is not a community problem. This is a your personal problem. You have options, either move out of Balmung or deal with it. HW zones take less than 2 to 3 minutes to cross from one end to the other when flying. If you didn't make it to the Hunt/FATE, than that means you were too busy doing something else. Need FATES for relic/beast tribes...then camp it. Simple as that.

[Tachyon]

Nope, not when you remove chat from pvp, so that shows me if the dev team whats to address community problems, why not this one?


Not for these zones as stated, it takes to long, also why have a 5 mile wide map with 2 points right next to eachother?

There has to be a better solution to server overpopulation than to simply add more aetherytes. (Not going to touch the PVP chat thing, as that's not the point of this thread)

The heavensward areas were designed to feel large and lengthy to traverse. I took your sea of clouds example, and it took me 1min and 6 seconds to reach (also note, its technically 'beastman' territory so again..danger..)

The only one I would semi-agree with are the locals in coerthas central, but even those are not that big of a deal if you plan your trips smartly

[Ama_Hamada]

There has to be a better solution to server overpopulation than to simply add more aetherytes. (Not going to touch the PVP chat thing, as that's not the point of this thread)

The heavensward areas were designed to feel large and lengthy to traverse. I took your sea of clouds example, and it took me 1min and 6 seconds to reach (also note, its technically 'beastman' territory so again..danger..)

The only one I would semi-agree with are the locals in coerthas central, but even those are not that big of a deal if you plan your trips smartly

It adds up time for gathering/ quests/ hunts/ fates, if SE can add a crystal in uldah for little reason, this is a bigger issue then that. traveling for a minute longer on the time nodes in the game, the way they are, is too long.

Shocked no one "backed" the Dravanian Hinterlands as well since I saw that complained here before.