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    Issues with some zones and aethertes, please do not repeat this in SB

    Here are the points/zones that are too far from an aetherte, making it hard to get to hunts/rare fates:

    The Sea of Clouds ( 30.3 , 18.9 )

    Azys Lla ( 26.7 , 16.2 )

    Azys Lla ( 22.5 , 33.8 )

    The Dravanian Hinterlands ( 17.0 , 29.1 )

    The Churning Mists ( 20.8 , 16.3 )

    [not as needed but helps get to the north points easier]
    East Shroud ( 26.0 , 13.3 )

    Outer La Noscea ( 24.6 , 7.3 )

    Coerthas Central Highlands ( 25.7 , 28.4 )

    Coerthas Central Highlands ( 12.7 , 16.5 )


    For the last 2, those are high traffic little towns that have a lot of quest points where it would be nice just to teleport there to get them done quicker. In 1.0 there was a lot of mini aetherte's that can be looked into like those spots and Mor Dhona ( 30.1 , 12.7 ) These places have a high traffic to side quests and leaves and it is kind of nonsense there is no aetherte there.
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    Last edited by Ama_Hamada; 05-07-2017 at 09:32 AM.

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    You only have as much time to get to the hunts as you do because they're so far away. It's Balmung. The hunts get pulled by people who pull as soon as they show up. The faster they show up, the less time you have to get there as well. That's why it's important to be in good hunt linkshells and drop everything you're doing to get to the hunt.
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    I think the faster adn easiest solution for overpopulated servers like Balmung is increase the re-appearance rate of the fates.
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    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SenorPatty View Post
    I think the faster adn easiest solution for overpopulated servers like Balmung is increase the re-appearance rate of the fates.
    That would just end up giving people who actually focus on hunts greater rewards for picking the right server, which seems rather unfair. They could perhaps use what WoW uses, and scale the health of the mobs to some extent based on how many people are hitting it. The end result is that having more people is generally faster and easier than having fewer people, but things getting hit by 100 people don't die in the blink of an eye.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixxe View Post
    You only have as much time to get to the hunts as you do because they're so far away. It's Balmung. The hunts get pulled by people who pull as soon as they show up. The faster they show up, the less time you have to get there as well. That's why it's important to be in good hunt linkshells and drop everything you're doing to get to the hunt.
    Quote Originally Posted by SenorPatty View Post
    I think the faster adn easiest solution for overpopulated servers like Balmung is increase the re-appearance rate of the fates.
    I would add, and this is something SE should be concerned about that it's not so bad to respond quickly when you have an SSD but I've had someone in my group teleport /with/ me and not make it to the hunt while I did because ps3 load difference. That like 10 second difference on Balmung lol.

    For some, depending on the popularity fo the content at that time, it's possible they can't be part of that content - it's just not possible for them to get there before it vaporizes xD. (Ofc there are people who check their retainers, do a few beastmen quests, water their garden, and then teleport there and are upset it's dead- but I'm not focusing on those sort of people :P)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    For some, depending on the popularity fo the content at that time, it's possible they can't be part of that content - it's just not possible for them to get there before it vaporizes xD.
    Well this might sound like a crazy idea but if you really want/need a hunt you could search for it yourself instead of waiting for someone to shout it's position.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silica-chan View Post
    Well this might sound like a crazy idea but if you really want/need a hunt you could search for it yourself instead of waiting for someone to shout it's position.
    WITH the assumption of loading issues that during peak time they can't be part of the train, the rate of your suggestion is hilariously different. Like miles of difference. Although without the loading issues or outside of peak time then yes, this would be preferable as it helps everyone.

    So yes, it's a crazy idea (given the presuppositions I made to the issue I then followed), it's still rather pointless in comparison to the rate of being part of the hunt train. If we buck the assumptions (unfocusing on those who can't load quickly) then less of an issue, yes.

    Perhaps you can argue that one once in a while is still fine (something better than nothing), but imo at least given the difference between train or no train it's a waste of time unless you have no other possible progression tool. Because Balmung's train is that powerful and that fast (when the content is releveant, things are better during the luls).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    I would add, and this is something SE should be concerned about that it's not so bad to respond quickly when you have an SSD but I've had someone in my group teleport /with/ me and not make it to the hunt while I did because ps3 load difference. That like 10 second difference on Balmung lol.

    For some, depending on the popularity fo the content at that time, it's possible they can't be part of that content - it's just not possible for them to get there before it vaporizes xD. (Ofc there are people who check their retainers, do a few beastmen quests, water their garden, and then teleport there and are upset it's dead- but I'm not focusing on those sort of people :P)
    I can 100% see that being a problem. Personally, I try to wait five minutes, but unless it's like 3 am, I am probably not the most impatient person there. We spawned Gandarewa earlier today and it lived all of about 1.5 minutes after I initially called it out. That's a bit faster than usual, but average time between first call and pull for S ranks is only about two minutes, which really doesn't afford people with slower loads much of a chance to get there.

    Quote Originally Posted by Silica-chan View Post
    Well this might sound like a crazy idea but if you really want/need a hunt you could search for it yourself instead of waiting for someone to shout it's position.
    There are usually multiple hunts up and being actively searched for at any given time. You can't be in multiple zones simultaneously, so not making it to a hunt doesn't necessarily imply people are just chilling by an aetheryte waiting for other people to find stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    I would add, and this is something SE should be concerned about that it's not so bad to respond quickly when you have an SSD but I've had someone in my group teleport /with/ me and not make it to the hunt while I did because ps3 load difference. That like 10 second difference on Balmung lol.
    This will get fixed in SB
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    This will get fixed in SB
    mmmmm nope, a LOT of people still won't have an SSD and PS4 (not that much faster in load times than a PS3 also they use HDD primarily and the users who buy them aren't as frequently modders)
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