Quote Originally Posted by AamesxDavid View Post
How is it that you manage to quote my post and then right below it act like I'm saying something completely different? Do you just read two words, then hit "Reply With Quote" and make up your own context for those two words?

I'm sorry, but it's just getting ridiculous at this point. So I'm going to do everything I can to make this as clear as possible. Here is the most relevant part of the post you quoted, as it relates to your response:

I'm very interested to know how the game isn't worth a $12 fee, but is somehow worth a 55-page debate. Not to mention all the time you've spent playing the game.

Saying a game is worth less than half the subscription fee that you knew they were going to charge from day one after a year of playing for free means that you're enjoying the game less than half as much as you expected. If that's the case, why are you still playing after all this time? Why do you care enough to argue on the forums over the price?

How many other ways do I need to put it before you actually respond like you understand what I'm saying?



I don't want full price. I just think that everyone's reasoning for saying the game is only worth full price is nonsense. For the last time.. pay attention.



The part where SE lowers their fee temporarily because some people claim that $6 or $7 a month will make or break their subscription. How about we just wait and see what happens? Of course SE wants to make as much money as possible, so if their numbers are so abysmal after fees are introduced, they will consider lowering it. What do you stand to lose by sending a real message to SE, and actually not subscribing when fees are introduced, and when all of these people you seem to think are going to do the same thing, wait for the price to drop? After all, the game isn't worth the full subscription fee to you; taking a little break shouldn't be such a terrible proposition.
Sorry if I got some of the subtler points of what you were trying to say wrong. I know you weren't specifically saying if it's worth $5 it's worth $12, but many people have, and since you seemed more inclined to support that position than mine, I just presented that case. I certainly wasn't trying to take you out-of-context and I apologize if it seemed that way (and trust me, many of my opponents would not afford the same consideration).

I've said this before, but there's a distinction between 1.0 and 2.0. I support the full price for 2.0, and even the thread title reflects that. After all, if you think going from free to full price for 1.0 is no problem, going from a discounted 1.0 to a full price 2.0 should be even easier to accept. When you look at it that way, it's actually supports the case to offer a discount rather than not.

And if you insist on making this personal (and there's no reason you should... the truth is in the logic of the request; how much I play has nothing to do with it) you can look this character up on the lodestone and see my highest rank is 30. I probably played more in the last week of Sept. 2010 than any time since. The fact they've offered the game free has kept me around, and I've dabbled in their new offerings along the way. I really don't play enough that $12/month is worth it to me, but I honestly would give a discounted rate serious consideration. That's why I've taken up this argument.

I'm not saying they shouldn't charge, and if they decide to stick with the $12.99/month rate that's fine with me. But I think there's a better way that would work in everyone's interest. It's as simple as that.