Quote Originally Posted by Preypacer View Post
I find it amazing that this thread is going for 49 pages now and people are still repeating the same arguments over and over and over again; as though saying it repeatedly will suddenly make it true.

Folks.. it's quite simple. If you don't feel the game is worth a sub yet after checking out 1.2 (many of you aren't even giving it that chance) then don't sub. Yoshi's already acknowledged that he realizes not everyone will sub because they'll not find it worth the money yet. So he's already stated, to keep track of it and maybe come back after 1.21 or 1.22 or so to see if it's more up what you find worth paying for.

But even that's not good enough for some of you, is it? No no no. Not for the self-entitled, ego-centric "me me me" crowd. It's gotta be your way or it's no good, right? You will have your cake and eat it too.. because you're entitled to it. Right?

For those of you whining about "not getting your money's worth" with all your ridiculous and melodramatic hyperbole... Give it a freaking rest. Some of you people have gotten more than your money's worth out of your initial purchase, especially those with multiple 50s and myriad achievements racked up over the past many months.

You bought the game, you've been playing the game - on SE's dime - for upwards of 13 months now. Now that they're going to reinstate subs, suddenly "you didn't get your money's worth". Well isn't that convenient.

Sorry... but yes you have. You've played the game, you've made progress, you've done any combination of developing your characters, leveling classes, fought raid-class bosses, completed dungeons, gotten some nice gear, did quests/missions, did leves, joined LSs and on and on.

In short, you've been playing the game all this time. Period. End of discussion.

FFS.. if you don't feel the game is worth a sub yet... then don't sub. It's as simple as that.

And don't come back with "what SE needs to succeed" or "they won't have enough subs" and such.. Not a single person posting here knows what SE needs. Only Yoshi and SE knows that. And from what they've stated, they are prepared to see it through to 2.0 regardless of how many end up subscribing. So, while you're at it... cut the crap with all the arm-chair analysis of "what SE needs for FFXIV to succeed". You have no idea.

It boils down to a simple decision.. If you feel the game is worth the sub after 1.2, then subscribe and continue playing. If you don't feel it's worth the sub... then don't subscribe and wait 'til you think it is.
i have watched you troll and attack everyone who disagrees with you on this thread. and out of these 49 pages i bet you got 50 post. i have sat by watching all of you. its sad to see your side of the argment and i seriously have tryed to see it from that side.

here is pretty much what it is. 1 side feels as if they only recieves 50% of what they wanted when they puchased the game. other half feels they have recieved 100%

now those who feel they havnt recieved enough are getting trolled by the same 5-10 peeps who refuse to stop arguing with everyone over poinless concept of what the want out of the game.

if your happy with what you got then why must you troll everyone on these forums? why are you not busy playing the game? your biased opinion has no merit tho and you can not justify telling someone else they recieved everything they wanted just because they got everything that satified you but not them. your basicly saying their opinion dont matter and yours is only one that does.

ive sat back and watched you and wynn tell everyone that disagrees with you to stop playing if they are not satified with the game they bought with their own money. you two are the forum plague of this comunitee. you purposly argue any point just to turn it into one.

if you and wynn enjoy the game so much how bout you stay off this thread and let other who have not posted post on it, before you troll it to death and get it locked.


now onto my opinion. this game is not worth a sub. it has been free from start for a reason. and the map i read says the finish line is a year away. This game is not complete and a big company like SE need to fix its PR and get better reviews from someone other than the fans on this forum. they need outsiders reviewing this game that will not give them biased opinions. earn back some of the bad publicity it got from the floped release. 2.0 and ps3 lauch would be perfect for this.

but charging now or even charging half will proly just send those who are waiting for what they consider a finished product packing. would be even more bad PR and reviews, not to mention they need to compete against alot of good up and comers in the next year. not the time SE not the time at all.